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thealiasmen
Pink Donkey Wrangler

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Doesn't Brad know anything about copyright infringement? He's profiting off of your donations, which go to the exploitation of copyrighted cartoon characters.

Does Brad care about this? Does anyone care?

Talk amongst yourselves.

11-05-02 6:31pm (new)
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andydougan
Film critic subordinaire

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Wrong.

11-05-02 6:44pm (new)
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JrnymnNate
I fling the shoddy polo stick

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hahahahaha

wait...

No.

11-05-02 6:45pm (new)
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BigEvilDan
Comic Overlord

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You mean the characters he's using with the permission of the artists?

Or is there a secret set of illegal characters that I don't know about?

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11-05-02 6:47pm (new)
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punkrockskaboy
Defender of the Liquor Cabinet

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First I asked myself if this thread was a joke. Answer, no.

Then I asked if Brad would use characters in such a blatantly obvious fashion without the permission of the artists. Answer, no.

Finally I asked if Alias should be put before us all to be beaten with random foreign objects for badmouthing brad. Answer, yes.

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Being able to watch people stick their foot in their mouth and get ridiculed for it- priceless

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11-05-02 7:35pm (new)
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andydougan
Film critic subordinaire

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Stop talking now.

11-05-02 8:07pm (new)
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Devin
Comic Overlord

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To access them, when you're at the comic-making screen, press A, Y, B, select, L, R, L, R, L, X, start.

11-05-02 11:47pm (new)
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thealiasmen
Pink Donkey Wrangler

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Oh my god! You mean Matt Groening gave permission for his artwork?!? Wow. And to think the quality of the Bongo image is so....shitty. Almost like it was horked somewhere.... Then again. Maybe Matt Groening and Brad are bestest buddies.

Even so....Isn't it funny there's no real copyright notice on the site giving proper credit to the artists? Well, there's a very prominent copyright notice on every page stating 'stripcreator is (c) 2002 brad'. But that's not really giving credit to the artists, is it? Oh. I did find a post that's buried within the depths of the forum:

http://www.stripcreator.com/forums/showthread.php?postnum=31567&forum=10

Unfortunatly, this post is really geared towards art that has been DONATED to the site. Donations aren't really in question, now, are they? If you donate art to the site, you are essentially forfeiting your rights to it. But other than your own cartoons, how do you really know what's been donated?

11-06-02 7:52am (new)
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sumrow
Stripcreator Newbie

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Bestest buddies.

Everyone, I think we owe a big fat show of hands to our new bestest buddy, and big toe, Sergant Smithee.

11-06-02 7:56am (new)
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Devin
Comic Overlord

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I don't feel guilty.

I haven't donated.

11-06-02 8:24am (new)
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DragonXero
I'm Here, You're Queer, Get Used to it

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Hey fucktard, ever consider the fact that we are using the likenesses of these characters in PARODY?
Not to mention, the copyright notice indicates that stripcreator itself is copyright of brad, not the content contained therein.
Get off your moral high horse and come give daddy a nice suckjob.

Ohhh, yeah. That's the stuff. You sure got a purdy mouth.

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11-06-02 8:37am (new)
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DragonXero
I'm Here, You're Queer, Get Used to it

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Also, you do realize that several people on this site willingly contribute art to the selection of characters, backgrounds, and props on this site, right? Further still, most who contribute actively create art specifically for this site.
I'm proud to say I donated.

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11-06-02 8:48am (new)
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JrnymnNate
I fling the shoddy polo stick

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What I wanna know is, who cares? Seriously, no one cared until you came along and said "Wait! Stop Everything! This is Wrong!". If it wasn't wrong before, then you've tried to make it wrong now. If you notice on the front page... er, when you look at any comic, it says underneath in clearly visable red text:

stripcreator.com features artwork and characters from:
diesel sweeties | jerkcity | exploding dog | when i grow up | fat jesus | goats | ko fight club | penny arcade | chopping block

So anyway, recognition is given, Brad has permision, no one is selling these things(which, if you had read that thread and the others it came from carefully, you'd see that's what it was about), and everything is peachy.

Hoser.

11-06-02 8:56am (new)
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DragonXero
I'm Here, You're Queer, Get Used to it

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Stop making me hate you less, Nate. You cockspank.

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11-06-02 9:45am (new)
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boinky33
I'm with stupid ^

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Doesn't Brad know anything about copyright infringement? He's profiting off of your donations, which go to the exploitation of copyrighted cartoon characters.

Does Brad care about this? Does anyone care?

Talk amongst yourselves.


I don't like you.

11-06-02 10:23am (new)
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thealiasmen
Pink Donkey Wrangler

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My point exactly.

So far no one has provided any solid answers to my questions. Parody? How is using Bongo as a character in your own comic strip considered "fair use" parody of Life in Hell? Give me a fucking break. You're taking someone else's character and using it for your own personal expression, and calling it your own creation. (c)2002 .

I'm not talking about donations. Never was. Donations are given freely, and copyright laws wouldn't apply.

As for the "stripcreator.com features artwork and characters from..." tagline, again I ask that you give me an f-ing break. Why isn't Life in Hell listed there? Is Brad afraid to list it, because he doesn't have permission? This is a golden advertising opportunity! List Matt Groening's name on the list, and watch the site's credibility and popularity grow! Yeah. Riiiight.

Please, continue the beatings. I like this Fight Club forum! Get your manly/adolescent agressions out. I'll be your huckleberry!

11-06-02 10:29am (new)
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wirthling
supercalifragilisticexpialadosucks

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I've always wondered about the Matt Groening thing, but I recall previous discussions (that are probably old enough that they are gone now--brad doesn't save everything) where brad has discussed getting permission from several of the artists. There would really be no point in lying to us about it, would there? Who's to say Matt Groening didn't actually reply to brad and give permission?

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11-06-02 10:41am (new)
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evil_d
Riding through your town with his head on fire

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If thealiasmen were genuinely concerned about copyright issues on this site, he might have posted something in "Bug Reports and Suggestions", or better yet e-mailed Brad personally, and opened his comments with something like "I'm concerned about what seems to be a potential copyright infringement issue on this site." He might even have spent enough time looking around the site to find the abovementioned tagline. Instead, he started a thread in "Fights Go Here", condemned the owner and users of this site without first gathering appropriate information, has been very argumentative and angry in all of his posts, and has encouraged others to respond in kind. This is because he is a troll. Please stop feeding the troll.

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11-06-02 11:02am (new)
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gabe_billings
President and CEO of Wirthlingsux Inc.

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Doesn't Brad know anything about copyright infringement? He's profiting off of your donations, which go to the exploitation of copyrighted cartoon characters.

Does Brad care about this? Does anyone care?

Talk amongst yourselves.


First, this is a valid question. You might have asked in a slightly less accusatory tone, though. 'Stripcreator is Illegal' is a little harsh.

Yes, Brad is certainly aware about copyright infringement. He did get permission before using almost all of the artwork on Stripcreator. Hence the stripcreator.com features artwork and characters from: at the bottom of the comic pages. Maybe he should add Used with permission in there somewhere, but you're the first person I've heard complain. (I use almost all since we're not too sure about the Life in Hell stuff. If it makes a slight moral difference, those were taken from someone else who did the actual stealing.)

As far as profiting from our donations, he certainly isn't raking in the bucks. I'm pretty sure that on the average, monthly donations cover bandwidth charges with maybe a few bucks left over for nachos. He sure isn't driving around in a Mercedes paid for with his mad phat Stripcreator money.

So do I care that among the hundreds of pictures which he has permission to use float a couple that were swiped? Not in the least. Just about every other site I see is rife with plagarism and images taken from elsewhere. Is it right just because everyone else does it? No. But I still really don't care.

Brad put a lot of effort into making something that an awful lot of people enjoy, and I fully support him. Until, of course, he steals from me.

Then I'll break his kneecaps.

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11-06-02 11:04am (new)
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gabe_billings
President and CEO of Wirthlingsux Inc.

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I'm not sure if I agree with that. You have to admit, the 'Fights Go Here' forum was a pretty good place to stick this.

Well thealiasmen, what do you have to say? Are you interested in finding answers to your questions? Or are you just here to annoy people?

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11-06-02 11:10am (new)
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DragonXero
I'm Here, You're Queer, Get Used to it

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And I'll hold him down for you.
But for now, let's smite the dissenter.

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11-06-02 11:12am (new)
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Brad
Feature Creep

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I got the Life In Hell graphics off of this Life In Hell fan page and another one I can't find again, back when I was writing Stripcreator almost two years ago. The graphics fit the engine and I figured more people would see those fan pages than would ever see my dumb comic creating site, so I didn't see the harm.

I still don't see the harm. But regardless, to avoid further issues, I've removed the 'lifeinhell' category from the make a comic engine. Old comics with Bongo will still work, but I'll be happy to replace those graphics with some similar but legally different enough bunny if I'm asked to by the copyright holder.

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11-06-02 11:24am (new)
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DragonXero
I'm Here, You're Queer, Get Used to it

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Hey, thealiasmen, WELL DONE. You have completed your mission, now go play hide and go FUCK YOURSELF. I'm certain you will not be wanted here now.

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11-06-02 11:48am (new)
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afroninja
Pink Donkey Wrangler

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Hey aliasmen -- since you've now deprived us of our beloved copyrighted material, perhaps you can produce an alternative?

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11-06-02 12:26pm (new)
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JrnymnNate
I fling the shoddy polo stick

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shooot, I was going to use bongo to represent alies.

11-06-02 12:43pm (new)
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