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Mr. Wonderful

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HURRICANE SEASON  Forest Whitaker

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2-17-10 11:10pm (new)
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Mr. Wonderful

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THE ALCOVE  Laura Gemser

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2-21-10 11:36pm (new)
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Mr. Wonderful

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CAPITALISM: A LOVE STORY

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2-22-10 7:54pm (new)
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Mr. Wonderful

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THE LOVE GOD?  Don Knotts

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2-23-10 11:42pm (new)
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Mr. Wonderful

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HOUSEWIVES FROM ANOTHER WORLD

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3-02-10 12:07pm (new)
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Mr. Wonderful

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BITCH SLAP

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3-03-10 9:45pm (new)
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DragonXero
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bipedI'd say you were a lot nicer to this new show than I would be.  But then, you're a newcomer to the whole Stargate thing so the overall feeling of betrayal isn't there.  This is Battlestargate SGalactica.  All I felt after the first episode was porrly-paced melodrama and a severe lack of truly likable characters.  I'm not saying anyone from SG-1 or Atlantis was a great actor, but they all made their characters feel fun.  Universe is an example of "overdoing it", especially when it comes to the drama.  On SG-1 you'd have some 6 or 7 episodes of action, suspense and some awesome pseudoscience with a few sprinkles of humor and even some slight drama.  Then once in a while you'd get an episode where someone important dies, a huge event that makes everyone sad happens, or even a hideous two-parter in season enders.  One major difference between Universe and SG-1, especially the early seasons of the latter, is that SG-1 was episodic and clever.  The whole problem for the writers was coming up with something new every episode.  Universe absolves the writers of such things by making something that would last, at most, 3 episodes on SG-1 into an entire series.  Instead of focusing on bad guys and conflict, it focuses on how people feel.  Personal relationships and hardship brought on by being on this big awesome ship.  Oh, and of course, every episode they have to figure out how to fix something or solve some problem on the ship.

I'm not saying this is a bad format.  It's not one I like, but it's the kind of format shows like BSG and Lost thrive on.  Sure, there are little twists and all but in the end, it's a drawn-out attempt at telling a very long story.  This is effectively what fiction on TV has become in general.  Again, not necessarily a bad thing.  There's a deep plot, good acting, deep story but in the end, it all feels like a hollow attempt to cash in on some of that sweet Battlestar money while completely alienating the only people who aren't confused about the background of the show.

I told myself I'd watch a few episodes, let the show take off.  I figured after half a season the writers would get the ratings in and find out that a huge chunk of the audience was tuning out.  It's not that I expect an SG-1 or even Atlantis clone.  I didn't get into Atlantis at first either, but after some bumps, it finally took off.  I'm really hoping SGU starts leaning more into the "action-adventure" kind of show I watched for 15 seasons (10 of SG-1 and 5 of Atlantis) instead of sticking with this boring, exposition-filled melodrama.

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3-06-10 5:29am (new)
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Mr. Wonderful

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From what I've read, a lot of longtime SG fans are saying the same things.  So I wouldn't be surprised if they start doing more of what you mentioned to keep the old fans happy.  Mainly having more planet stories, maybe bring back the bad guys (forgot their name), and not rely so much on the sappier character elements.

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3-07-10 2:04pm (new)
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DragonXero
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As a fan myself, I don't really *want* any old bad guys, since they're mostly dead/defeated.  The fun of Stargate was that they'd come up with new and very different enemies each time while sticking with "aliens as mythology" for SG-1.  Atlantis did 5 season with the same main bad guys too, but they had minor enemies to face as well.  Both series had humor, action and drama that actually meant something.  It was part of the plot then, now it is the whole plot.  I don't want a repeat of the old stuff, but I want the spirit of it there, y'know?  The original BSG was a little campy, very fun and filled with good old TV quality humor.  Every episode pretty much always ended with the heroes smiling and laughing about the adventure for that week and signing off in victory, not moping around like a bunch of depressed teenagers.

Whiny drama is not dark. It's boring.  Dark sci-fi is awesome.  Blade Runner, the original Matrix, a few of the Star Trek movies, Lexx and many others prove that dark sci-fi doesn't mean emo.  Sure, shows like Farscape throw in a bit of excessive drama, but there's a fine line between a good space opera and boring melodrama.  It's become a problem, I think.  Look at just about any show on any network these days.  Even shows that could be cool end up being dragged down by completely pointless and sometimes supposedly real drama.  Look at Discovery/TLC/History and the like.  There's a new show, Operation Repo, which has a cops-like theme, but ends up being more like Real World because of the bitching back and forth.

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3-07-10 9:11pm (new)
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Mr. Wonderful

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Well, I got the impression that the end of the first half-season was leading up to some kind of breakthrough.  Maybe they've gotten enough of the maudlin backstory out of the way by now and are ready to start kicking ass. 

The complete STARGATE ATLANTIS DVD collection is coming out--26 discs, I think.  I put in a request for it but chances are slim that I'll actually get a copy.

 

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3-07-10 11:59pm (new)
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Mr. Wonderful

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GENTLEMEN BRONCOS

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3-08-10 12:00am (new)
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Zaster
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Fuck those guys I am building my own stargate!!

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3-09-10 9:24am (new)
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DragonXero
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ZasterStop derailing Biped's thread!

Besides, you'd need a superconductor far more efficient than what we've been able to produce on Earth and we've yet to discover any Naquadah here.  Not to mention the collosal power requirements and the cost of all those nifty robots to make sure you're not gating into a black hole or something.  Oh, and the Baals in your face.

THERE ARE BAALS IN YOUR FACE.

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3-09-10 8:09pm (new)
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Mr. Wonderful

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I built my own stargate in my backyard, and it led to--an exact duplicate of my backyard!  I encounted some strange dog-like aliens that tried to communicate with me via some kind of barking noises.  I think I was in a kind of parallel universe!!!

 

HOTEL CALIFORNIA

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3-13-10 10:36pm (new)
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Mr. Wonderful

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ALICE IN WONDERLAND (BBC-TV, 1966)

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3-14-10 9:21pm (new)
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DragonXero
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bipedActually, that's just the dog planet, Alpha-Canus 4.  The entire planet looks like your backyard.  It's weird, but not unexpected.  How about the dog bone glyphs?  Crazy huh?

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3-15-10 8:26pm (new)
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Mr. Wonderful

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The dog-aliens were EATING the dog bone glyphs!!!

 

THE MEN WHO STARE AT GOATS

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3-16-10 12:42am (new)
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not_Scyess
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DragonXero

It's much nicer than Calpha-Anus 4, which looks entirely like Detroit.

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3-16-10 7:31am (new)
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Mr. Wonderful

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VENGEANCE TRILOGY (SYMPATHY FOR MR. VENGEANCE/ OLDBOY/ LADY VENGEANCE)  Park Chan-wook

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3-21-10 12:03am (new)
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Zaster
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This thread is now about other planets and aliens!!

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3-22-10 6:30am (new)
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Mr. Wonderful

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And dog bone glyphs.

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3-22-10 10:29am (new)
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Mr. Wonderful

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BTW, anyone who would be kind enough to give me ("porfle") a write-in vote as "Best DVD reviewer" for the 2010 Rondo awards can do so by going here.

Remember, that name again is porfle.

You don't actually have to think of me as the "best" one, since they have no way of knowing if voters are telling the truth or not. 

Thanks in advance for your hypothetical participation.

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3-23-10 10:53pm (new)
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brycekain
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Sure if you buy my album :-D

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3-23-10 11:53pm (new)
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Mr. Wonderful

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Couldn't I just vote for it instead?

 

THE KILLER    John Woo

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3-24-10 1:36am (new)
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Zaster
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You mean you're asking for actual votes from real people? Don't they rent out botnets for that kind of thing?

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3-24-10 5:30am (new)
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