True, everyone is entitled their own opinion, but it shouldnt be on the expense of others.

Stop the hate!

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The world is full of crazy people. That is good, because then I wont be the only one.

Fuck you!

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The world is full of crazy people. That is good, because then I wont be the only one.

Don't listen to boinky, Blackwolf. He's weird.

I've been slipping E into his food.

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Oh yes, hating racists is such a novel concept. And overt racism is SUCH a problem, seeing as so many Americans are members of hate groups (Hint: They're not. And Uncle is a troll. And an anti-racism website does no good at all.).

Real racism is the division of people into groups. Calling black people African-Americans and white people white is racist, and so are the "black leaders" who claim to speak for all the people with brown skin. Putting a man into a group because of something he can't control is a bad thing. Unless he's a retard. I hate retards.

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Awww, you don't like punkrockskaboy?

that is a valid point akira, however, most people don't realize how rampant racism is running in America. Spreading the word about it is never a bad thing. I reiterate, it is a good thing because people don't realize how numerous hate groups are and how racist activities are at an all time high. It is nice for people to be aware of this, and that is the PRIMARY function of my website. I am not saying that I wouldn't like to see racism eliminated in America, but, to face the facts, that just isn't gonna happen.

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Like fuck it is. Racism isn't about the dividing people into groups, it's about the judging people based on what group they happen to be in.

Like fuck it is. Racism isn't about the dividing people into groups, it's about the judging people based on what group they happen to be in.

You left out the qualifying part of "calling black people 'African-American'" while simultaneously feeling it's allright to call white people white. What if a white person was born in Africa, and then immigrated to America? Would that not make them "African-American?" Would they be more or less "African-American" than a black person born in the US who has never set foot on the African continent?

Feeling that one race deserves a special hyphenated moniker while the other does is what was being singled out as racist. Not "calling white people white."

Point taken, but this was the second time on this site this week I've come across someone using the phrase "African American" to mean all black people, without taking the time to realise that person might not be African or American.

Yeah, we white people in the US are a bit screwed up in that manner. What with all the PC crap, many of us automatically call all black people "African American" just because that's about the only thing it's "safe" to call black people anymore in this country if you aren't black as well. It's more force of habit than logic.

If black people want to be called African-Americans then that's no problem. But that's more their lineage than their race, I'd say.

I can see that, except that it really actually is considered to be their race as opposed to simply their heritage here in the US. I just thought I'd try to shed some light on the reason behind why you sometimes see the term "African-American" thrown about so casually in reference to black people regardless of their actual nationalities. It's too deeply ingrained in people's minds as reflex for them to actually think logically about what is being said. In a way, just like the fact that black people generally aren't "black," and about as close as you get to "white" is an albino, except the latter example isn't anywhere near as far off the mark as calling a black person born in the Netherland an "African American."

And by the way, have you been LIVING in America lately? Look up some statistics or something, there are MANY MANY Americans involved in racist hate-groups. The numbers are kind of buried and you have to search a bit to find the real stats. But they are there. When I was a senior I did a 15 page report on racism. You will be surprised how rampant it really is.

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But a website saying "Please don't be racist. It's bad." isn't going to help.

It's both.

I just call black people "black". (If I'm describing the black person to somebody else, that is... If I'm talking to them, they know they're black.) Like, say, if Ike - a Grammy Award winning drummer and a friend of mine who is quite black - asks of me at a gig: "You seen my crew?" "I dunno, Ike.. couple of black dudes, a white dude and some black chick?" "Yeah, where'd they go?" "I think they checked into their rooms already." "Thanks."

See... that's a normal exchange. It's a very handy and fast way to describe people so as to differentiate them from white people in a crowd. It works both ways: "Hey, Ike.. is that your new guitar player?" "Skinny white guy?" "Yeah." "He's the new guy, yeah."
We have now handily put the guitar player into the "white guy" visual cue category and can ascertain his whereabouts more quickly my mentally checking the black people in the room off of the list.

If you are talking to somebody who is a different colour than you are -and I send this out to everybody, black, white, yellow, brown - they KNOW what colour they are. It's not required to use those deliniations anymore. So talk TO them. Don't talk AT them. You might meet a really nice person. Or a complete moron. Welcome to America.

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I wanted my half in the middle and I wound up on the edge.

1st- Niether is sitting here saying "nothing will help anyway so why bother"

2nd- My website doesn't say that. I think you made that assumption without ever even seeing it. You know what happens when you assume...You make an ass out of yourself. No, not me, yourself.

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Hrm... yes... I see, provoking is still the best way to start a discussion :)

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The world is full of crazy people. That is good, because then I wont be the only one.

so much discussion about "racism"...

my only thing to add to this is today it is evermore about money and privelege, not race.

And a-thank you.

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Ham-fisted ham fisting.

You mean they use racism as an excuse to not seem greedy or power hungry?

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The world is full of crazy people. That is good, because then I wont be the only one.

I'm sorry if in my last post I sounded as if I was doubting racism's potency. Let me clarify.

What I meant was that though racism is still prevalent in American culture, I think that a more powerful form of prejudice arises from the disparity of the quality of life between people as it is affected by wealth or opportunity. Race compounds this even further.

But, this is humanity, no? To be fearful of the unknown and to terrorize those that are different? Just like on the schoolyard, only the stakes are much higher.

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Ham-fisted ham fisting.

Actually, I agree with Artemis. It's this desire to outdo and this fear of being outdone that is the driving factor behind hatred.

Racism isn't an excuse to cover this, but rather a manifestation.

This thread reads like a badly-written Spike Lee movie.

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So then, it reads like a Spike Lee movie.

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Ham-fisted ham fisting.