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Drexle
Your Cure for Lameness

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Or you could ask for a special case deletion from Brad. There *are* a few comics that just come up blank, presumably because they were deleted long ago.

8-18-01 8:31am (new)
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ladyjdotnet
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NastyPope needs to ease up and realize that this is all in fun.

Well, except when I'm talking about skagg and crabby. I really do have no respect for them.

It is very nice that Drexle is willing to accomodate NastyPope's objection, and it's very nice that Spankling is willing to offer apologies for creating a comic that pokes generic fun at someone about whom he knows nothing. I just think that it is unnecessary for either of these people to feel bad about doing what any other person in this forum would be thick-skinned enough to take and expect and enjoy.

So:

Drexle, kudos for being willing to accomodate NP's objection, but damn you for setting the precedent that anyone who whines about a rule can expect it to be changed.

NastyPope, lighten up a bit, or the world will swallow you whole.

Spankling, please do not commit seppuku. Brad just had the forum cleaned.

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8-18-01 8:35am (new)
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Spankling
Looking for love in ALL the wrong places, baby!

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Gender Bender pt 1 by Spankling
8-18-01
Hi... I was wondering if you could help...
Good LORD woman! You got here just in time, maybe a bit late! Let Jael take care of you right over there.
What a mess. This will take a complete make over, miss.
Actually, I'm a guy. And I just want directions to the Sears Tower.
First, we'll HAVE to get rid of that irritating pompadour.
I don't want a haircut!

An apology strip would just raise the point over again. I was going to check with Brad about a deletion but I fear LadyJ might come down on me with both feet... hmm.... mental image... coming into focus...

Excuse me folks... must go clean up. Back later.

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8-18-01 8:38am (new)
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ladyjdotnet
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I said my piece about it. I think I'm done.

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8-18-01 8:41am (new)
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Spankling
Looking for love in ALL the wrong places, baby!

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Darn.

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8-18-01 8:43am (new)
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Drexle
Your Cure for Lameness

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It is very nice that Drexle is willing to accomodate NastyPope's objection, and it's very nice that Spankling is willing to offer apologies for creating a comic that pokes generic fun at someone about whom he knows nothing. I just think that it is unnecessary for either of these people to feel bad about doing what any other person in this forum would be thick-skinned enough to take and expect and enjoy.

Drexle, kudos for being willing to accomodate NP's objection, but damn you for setting the precedent that anyone who whines about a rule can expect it to be changed.


I can see your point about the precident, and it's something I thought about before making the ruling. However, considering that this has less to do with whining about a rule that you can't be funny with and more to do with a personal objection I didn't see what the harm would be. That and I can see where NastyPope is coming from because I used to be that same way a long time ago.

8-18-01 8:53am (new)
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skagg
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NastyPope needs to ease up and realize that this is all in fun.

Well, except when I'm talking about skagg and crabby.


[eric foreman]you see i joke, but you hurt[/eric foreman]

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8-18-01 8:54am (new)
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ladyjdotnet
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Doesn't hurt me a bit. :)

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8-18-01 9:10am (new)
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fpd
Doctor of Fine Parody

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I applaud NastyPope's decision to not write a strip that makes fun of his opponent. As I read his statement, it was not about not wanting Spankling to lampoon him. It was rooted in his respect for his opponent and in a sense of dignity that would not let him make fun of friends and collegues. It is sad that many people here do not share this same respect for each other. Like NastyPope, I have avoided making fun of others here, and I was relieved that I was not being asked to write such a strip myself. When I read NastyPope's response, it gladdened me that he put his integrity above winning the contest.

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8-18-01 9:12am (new)
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skagg
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so i see youve met my good friend Miss Understandingskaggsstatments

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8-18-01 9:22am (new)
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skagg
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i have respect for the guys (and girls) on here but i still enjoy a good piss take because people know that im never serious

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8-18-01 9:24am (new)
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DexX
What the Cat Dragged In

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Okay, here is my take on the situation...

Wirthling does not _really_ fuck donkeys.

I do not _really_ fuck kangaroos.

Matthew Eastaugh does not _really_ talk like some twit from To The Manor Born.

Et cetera, et cetera, et cetera...

We are (almost) all friends here. Sure, we would most probably not recognise each other if we happened to meet, but we have a laugh together and use this forum as an exercise yard for our imaginations. We also take the piss from each other. When we insult each other, it is almost always in fun (when it isn't in fun, you certainly know about it, but that's another story). I suppose I can grudgingly respect NastyPope's determination to stick to his principles and refuse to insult another forum user. However, I also reserve the right to express my opinion on the topic: I think he is over-reacting. In my view, refusing to poke harmless fun at someone else in this friendly forum is like playing Quake on a LAN and refusing to shoot your opponents because they're your friends and you don't want to hurt them.

Sorry, NastyPope - I like ya, but that's what I think.

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8-18-01 9:26am (new)
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skagg
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i got to agree there

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8-18-01 9:29am (new)
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Drexle
Your Cure for Lameness

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Okay, here is my take on the situation...

Wirthling does not _really_ fuck donkeys.


He doesn't? Gasp! My worldview is shattered!!! *faints!*

8-18-01 9:35am (new)
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Spankling
Looking for love in ALL the wrong places, baby!

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[soapbox]As a practitioner of painful sex, I always operate with a safe word. When women inflict pain on me they know that when I say that word they must stop and check to see what kind of pain I'm in. We play rough, but we never forget that we respect and appreciate each other and mean no real harm.

That is how I play in this forum. NP used his safe word, not because he was hurt, but because he saw something outside his sense of honor. We should respect that and stop or else the games loss there sense of fun.

My opinion, obviously, is that you can be VERY mean to someone and still respect them.
[/soapbox]

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8-18-01 9:41am (new)
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Drexle
Your Cure for Lameness

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That is how I play in this forum. NP used his safe word, not because he was hurt, but because he saw something outside his sense of honor. We should respect that and stop or else the games loss there sense of fun.

My opinion, obviously, is that you can be VERY mean to someone and still respect them.


That's pretty much how I feel about the situation, really. Funny you should use the BDSM reference as well, since it's not lost on me in the slightest.

8-18-01 9:57am (new)
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DexX
What the Cat Dragged In

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Carrying on the BDSM analogy, I see NP's reaction to these rules as being like someone who says, "Wanna do some bondage, wanna do some bondage, wanna do some- hey, what the FUCK do you think you're doing with those handcuffs?"

Ah, fuck it - I've said my piece, made my viewpoint pretty clear. Time to leave it alone, I think.

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8-18-01 10:04am (new)
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ladyjdotnet
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I understand the whole safeword thing, and I fully agree with DexX's take on it. Safewords are to be respected, but no one wants to play again with someone who safewords on the first spank.

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8-18-01 11:37am (new)
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evil_d
Riding through your town with his head on fire

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I know I'm supposed to be out of state -- in fact, I am out of state -- well, I'm in a state, but it's a different one -- but I digress, and it's only the first sentence of this post. Point is, I chanced to get online and read this discussion and I wanted to throw in my opinion.

There are actually ceremonies, called "Roasts", where the entire point is for people to get up on stage and lampoon, mock, and otherwise poke fun at the guest of honor. You may consider yourself quite lucky if you have such a ceremony held in your honor. It means you have a lot of friends, and it means they are such good friends that (a) they know you well enough to do few minutes of stand-up about you, and (b) they know your friendship is strong enough that it won't be weakened by such mocking.

We've been making fun of each other here for almost as long as the Strip Creator has been around. The only rule in Comic Contest #6 was "make fun of wirthling". In Comic Cup 1, LadyJ and RanmaX also had to make strips that poked fun at each other. They did well with that rule despite the fact that (as far as I know) they knew nothing about each other. Neither took offense because they knew none was intended.

Refusing to take a few friendly jabs at a fellow comedian on the grounds that you have too much respect for them is at the very least disingenuous and inconsistent with common practices in our society.

I hope no one really thinks that we regulars have no respect for each other just because we make fun of each other. I have a lot of respect for most of the people on this site, I think they're damn funny and I wouldn't want them to leave, but I wouldn't hesitate to make jokes about them, and you know why? Because it's fucking funny, that's why. And because it's a good-natured gesture between colleagues. Even when I make jokes about crabby, I don't mean for them to be truly offensive. If I thought they would be, I wouldn't do it. This really isn't the forum for it.

And if someone else chose to joke about me, well, if I couldn't take that, then I probably don't belong at a web site like this one. In fact, if Drexle wants to save this rule for my next round, I say he's welcome to. I'll give that bastard kaufman what for! (That's a touch of Humor, you see, because I like kaufman and think he's very funny, and he's on my favorite authors list and all.)

I should also point out that the rules do not say "make a comic about what a pissant Spankling is". The contestants are not expected to know anything about their opponents, or to make strips that are personal to them. The names "Spankling" and "NastyPope" could just as easily be exchanged with any of our names, or with names like "President Bush" or "Jay Leno". The spirit of the rule, as I interpret it, is "make a comic that lambasts somebody, and since you're in a competition here, that somebody might as well be your opponent". Sounds like some harmless fun to me.

That said... Spankling's point about safe words is very valid. And I disagree with LadyJ that we shouldn't allow rules to be changed because a contestant doesn't like them. I think that's an excellent reason to change the rules. Making these strips isn't a homework assignment, it's a bit of fun. If one of the two contestants who has to play by the rules has ethical issues with them, I think it's reasonable and appropriate for the moderator to revise them to accomodate that. If a contest is unpleasant for its participants, then why are we holding it? And why should we expect anyone to take part in it?

In short:

(1) If anyone has a serious objection to a rule, they have every right to expect that the rest of us will respect and accomodate that objection.

(2) If anyone thinks that making fun of someone is a sign that you don't like or respect that person, lighten up. And look around you.

I'm going to go back to being out of state now.

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8-18-01 11:47am (new)
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NastyPope
His Holiness Archamian the First

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Holy sheep shit. I had not forseen this kind of reaction to my withdrawing. I should have just withdrawn with a lame excuss such as sickness or something like that. Ok, let me see if I can address some of the issues raised here.

I was not at all offended by Spank's comic. I thought it humorous and using my own quote was a nice touch. So Spankling, dont feel bad at all, you need not apologize one iota. If you notice when I posted my withdrawl that it was AFTER he had already posted his first comic of the round. I did not complain about it then and I am certainly not complaining about it now.

Not to be insulting, but LadyJ and Dexx do not get the purpose of my post. I can be insulted all day long. I don't care. Most people who insult me know nothing of me so their insults are baseless. I work in the public school system and believe me, I get insulted nearly every day and I neither get mad nor do my feelings get hurt. You cannot survive in that field if you don't have a thick skin. LadyJ, I think that perhaps you are the one who needs to lighten up. In all honesty, Skagg and Crabby have unique and sometimes awkward personalities that I have come to appreciate and yes... respect. Perhaps you may too if you try.

My post was about me INSULTING OTHERS with no concern about me being insulted. I have an incredibly 'thick skin' as LadyJ put it but I dont know how thick someone elses skin is. Without pouring out personal history here, suffice it to say that I can sometimes forget where to draw the line between what someone might chuckle over and what may hurt them deeply. By choosing not to even approach that line lest tempted by the person themselves (see Crabby's Comic Contest) I am able to adhere to a principle that has worked wonders in how I relate to others people. FPD understood this and his post relfects that well.

As for Evil_D's post on Roasts, it is noted, however there have been times when a Roastee has walked out because they were so insulted. Others have held grudges that up until that time never existed. why ? because the insulter did not know where to draw the line at what was funny and lighthearted and what was cruel. I dont want to be the cruel one. I have been that person and I didn't like it.

So, to sum up, if you want to insult me, knock yourself out, I can not only take it, I may very well get a good laugh out of it. Roast me if you will and when you have finished be sure to eat my ass, it is the plumpest and juiciest part. I , however, will not insult others unless specifically asked to do so by the intended victim.

I'm sorry this stirred up so much. I just wanted to withdraw gracefully. Obviously that failed but the withdrawl stands. And Drexle, don't take that personally. It was because I didn't want anyone to feel bad that I withdrew in the first place. Funny how things work out.

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8-18-01 12:07pm (new)
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ladyjdotnet
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Well, then I object to the rules that allowed Drexle to beat me in the last cup.

Yeah yeah yeah, I understand it's not the same thing. Like I said, good for Drexle and Spankling that they're so accomodating... but I still think NastyPope's being whiny.

It's like the super-religious woman at work who presses her lips together all tightly and looks angry and depressed every time anyone lets a bad word slip out. I just want to scream, "God can't possibly be as uptight as you are!" but that would get me fired. The other day, I slammed my thumb in the door right near her and managed not to say anything obscene. God must know that those circumstances are specifically what the words are for, but I knew Paula would give me that injured look, and I choked back the stream of curses that rose to my lips. I think the swear jar owes me money.

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8-18-01 12:12pm (new)
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Drexle
Your Cure for Lameness

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What's done is done, and it's best to let things go. If NastyPope wants to bow out regardless, there's nothing I can do to stop him. It's highly regrettable, but it's his choice. Evil_d, I'm not going to substitute the lambasting rule into your round. I'll just go with the rules as I'd planned.

All those who have been defeated thusfar need to look in my profile and send me an e-mail suggesting a rule for the final round of the contest. This goes for the loser of Round 6 as well. Once I have collected 6 rules that would work reasonably well together, we can commence with the finals. The only thing I'm going to request is that you keep in mind that the finals will NOT require the contestants to make more than one strip. The winner of this round will face Spankling for bragging rights, and the right to moderate the next contest.

Round 6 kaufman vs evil_d

This one also requires the entrants make two full strips apiece. For the first one...

1)Use Neil from "When I Grow Up" twice.
2)The setting is a "tentacle porn anime." No need to get explicit or down and dirty unless you want to. We just have to know that this is set in a tentacle porn anime somehow.
3)Use references to "back to school" sales in two of the three panels.

The second one

1)The last frame of your opponent's first strip is to be the first frame of your own second strip.
2)The setting is a panty raid, like the kinds on those 70s and 80s sitcoms.
3)Someone in the strip must be a devout catholic.

The winner will be the one who puts on the overall best showing between the two contestants. Voting will end 24 hours after the final comic is submitted.

8-18-01 1:06pm (new)
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ladyjdotnet
Snitcreator

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It is very insulting to say that I have not "tried" to give skagg and crabby a chance. It is very disrespectful, too. I am deeply offended. I did not expect such a thing to be said here.

Sound silly to you, too?

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8-18-01 1:36pm (new)
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NastyPope
His Holiness Archamian the First

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Sound silly to you, too?

nope.

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8-18-01 1:46pm (new)
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ladyjdotnet
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And yet you did not apologize for being offensive.

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8-18-01 2:12pm (new)
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