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TheGreatLeader
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2-01-05 9:08pm (new)
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not_Scyess
not laughing with you

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I don't understand why you even bothered to take the time to make those comics.

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peddling the funny around since 09/24/2002

2-01-05 11:01pm (new)
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biped
Mr. Wonderful

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Surely you didn't expect any positive feedback.

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2-01-05 11:36pm (new)
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TheGreatLeader
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Wait, wait, wait. What's wrong with my comics?

2-02-05 10:53am (new)
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niteowl
Level 1 Forum Troll

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Where are the punchlines?

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2-02-05 3:38pm (new)
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TheGreatLeader
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Punchlines are necessary in a comic?

2-02-05 5:19pm (new)
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not_Scyess
not laughing with you

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Hahahahaha

Now THAT's funny.

I guess a comic doesn't technically have to be funny, but you've also missed:

poignant
interesting
thought-provoking
didactic
relevant
political
soulful
moving

and just about everything else except for "pointless."

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2-02-05 9:22pm (new)
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TheGreatLeader
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Do you mind telling me what your definition of comedy is?

2-02-05 10:16pm (new)
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not_Scyess
not laughing with you

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Do you really need me to tell you?

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2-02-05 11:20pm (new)
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TheGreatLeader
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Going by dictionaries isn't very accurate, especially considering they are only vague.

Come on, tell me what you at least think comedy is. I want to know.

2-02-05 11:53pm (new)
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fzh
Stripcreator Regular

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Listen, your comics lack humor. They lack anything that even resembles an attempt at humor. They lack anything that resembles entertainment. Please, at least put a tiny bit of thought into your comics.

2-03-05 12:14am (new)
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not_Scyess
not laughing with you

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Sorry, JongIl, I'm bored now.

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2-03-05 12:49am (new)
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PhreakyChinchilla
DANGER WILL ROBINSON!

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Comedy is basically what people find funny and is very open to interpretation.
Comics are supposed to contain this in some way, shape, or form. Yours, however, do not.

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dcomposed:11-06-05: If I was a viking invading your village, you'd be the first to get raped.
Crabby: 10/5/06: i would love to feed you fresh fruit while bathing you.

2-03-05 6:57am (new)
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TheGreatLeader
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If it is up to interpetation, then that means my comics are not to your liking, not "They have no humor in them".

And Comedy does have an exact definition. If you know what it is, it's pretty easy to know when the opinions come into play.

2-03-05 9:38am (new)
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Drexle
Your Cure for Lameness

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TheGreatLeader,

What is it about these strips that amuses you? What do you find funny about them? What is the "joke" supposed to be, if anything?

2-03-05 9:58am (new)
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80_Million_Fleas
Make a New One!

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Asinine random drivel is no way to go about life. I know I'm not the Jesus of comedy... I'm not even the Peter of comedy... I'm just barely the Jude of comedy (This of course, is my own assesment, I'd hate to see others.).

At anyrate, you're horrible. Through and through. I dunno what backwards message board you crawled out of that would have even given you the notion that was funny.

You, sir, do not get an LOL. You get an 'L'. Not for Laughs, but for Loser.

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If you want to be sucessful, you need to make think beyond what you're thinking about now. Again, I'm no champeen heavyweight comedic comic maker, but I am an observer. To get the laughs, you must create some sort of character(s), build up something and end with a heavy hitting punchline.

These characters can already be established in people's minds like Lenin or they can be something of your own device. Making your own character is hard, though, expecially considering that your movement (IE; Action posses) with the characters is a limited and people don't like reading long bits of information. That's why they read comics and not "Das Kapital" or "The Anarchist Cookbook". (Still, I try to write long bits of information. Just cuz I can. Don't have to follow EVERYTHING to a Tea. Just don't expect laughs from anyone but yourself and perhaps Trotsky.)

Also, you have to write about said character in only a few discript words. Let's take this example: "TOBOR WILL CORNHOLE YOU!" See? We've established a fact about the character---Tobor likes to cornhole. Depending on the other character, this could revel lots more about Tobor personality; IE, if Tobor said it to a man, he would be gay. If he said it to a boy he could be a pedophile. If he said it to a plush toy, he'd possibly be a furry of the utmost extreme sad kind that a lot of other furries won't even like and possibly crazy for talking to inanimate objects as if they were sentient.

Of course, the next character would have to respond to the pervious statement that our first character has made. Let's continue with our Tobor example. Tobor wants to cornhole a random male. Now, we can do a few things here. We can apply a plotist's form of comedy, an obscurist's form of comedy, some combination their of or possible lots more categories that I don't usually revert to or don't translate well to three-pannel comics.

The plotist's approach would be to continue the plot to the punchline, with only a few jokes. An example would be something like. "Is that so, Tobor?" or "What would I get out of it?"

The Obscurist's approach would be to come up with something completely different or unexpected in responce to the other's statement. An example of this would be "OK, but I have rectal warts!". If you trail off and try for something that doesn't even remotely relate to your first character's statement like "Soon, Automation and Outsourcing will ruin the American economy." Your audience will gets confused and loose interest in the comic.

Those who can walk the fine line between Plotist and Obscurist are the most brilliant of these. A lot of people try to walk this line, but it's hard to do so and people have a tendancy to lean or fall to one or the other side.

There is also other styles of comedy, but those don't translate well into the Stripcreator format. For example, Sitcom-like comedy would require more pannels and is a tired cliche by contemporary standards.

Moving on, we have can plotist or obscurist our way to the punchline. The punchline is the biggest part of the comic. The climax! The spooge at the end of a wack-off session! To actually get a decent punchline, you have to end in it in somesort of unexpected note. This is a hardest part and a lot of people from n00bie MacN00berson to Brian of 8-Bit Theatre can easily get this fucked up and we get crickets instead of laughs. However, you as a strip maker need to keep on doing it and doing it and doing it... and not get discouraged if you don't get it right.

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That's all the advice I could give you. It may not be grade 'A' advice, but if you look around at good strips you'll see what I mean. Anyway.. the debut of the example comic!

[Click to view comic: 'Example for a confused person.']

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Shame on Us for All We Have Done. May God Have Mercy on Our Dirty Little Hearts.

2-03-05 10:22am (new)
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TheGreatLeader
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Fleas, you don't know what comedy is, but you are observant of what the majority of the stripcreator forum wants.

Now Drexle
As for why I find the comics I made funny, the "I Hate College :(" comic is making fun of college kids since all they do is argue. The arguement doesn't even have to make sense or come to an end since all they do is argue. Basically, I'm insulting college kids for having no other time or no valid offer but to squabble mindlessly. Plus they like John Lennon for the wrong reasons.

The Dion and The Belmonts strips are just there. There's no joke and there's really no intention of making a joke. Well, I guess you can say that it's a bit of irony since you're expecting a joke in a comic strip (and especially one that's three consecutive strips long) and at the end you just get nothing. Actually, the entire 3 parts are so lacking of a joke, that there isn't even an attempt at the last two panels of the third strip. Basically, untarnished humility.

The Getting the Show started was basically a bit of humility as well as playing on the whole countdown phrase of "A one and a two and a three." That's it.

Now, I'm not going to do comics that everyone here likes, but there are bound to be one or two people who will get the jokes in my comics.

2-03-05 7:09pm (new)
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80_Million_Fleas
Make a New One!

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More power to you, sir.

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Shame on Us for All We Have Done. May God Have Mercy on Our Dirty Little Hearts.

2-03-05 7:21pm (new)
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fzh
Stripcreator Regular

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Listen, the most important part of a comic is the punchline. Here, I added a punchline to your comic and now it's better:
[Click to view comic: 'I HATE COLLEGE :(']

2-03-05 11:38pm (new)
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TheGreatLeader
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You're joking, right?

2-04-05 12:49am (new)
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PhreakyChinchilla
DANGER WILL ROBINSON!

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The punchline is always CUNTS!

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dcomposed:11-06-05: If I was a viking invading your village, you'd be the first to get raped.
Crabby: 10/5/06: i would love to feed you fresh fruit while bathing you.

2-04-05 6:06am (new)
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fzh
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Why shouldn't I? I realized you had no sense of what makes a good comic, and that reasoning with you would do absolutely nothing.

2-04-05 8:13am (new)
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Drexle
Your Cure for Lameness

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I was mostly (thought not entirely) curious about the first four strips, and what you said seems to be what I suspected: that the strips are "just there." I guess that being the case, it all leads back to the very first response to the topic. "Why bother to make them if they're 'just there?'"

About the last one, I'd argue that everyone in the world argues about something, college education not withstanding. Even so, two asian girls are an odd choice of characters to represent college kids arguing about anything, especially when they aren't arguing so much as... speaking in broken english.

2-04-05 8:45am (new)
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fzh
Stripcreator Regular

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Just a question:What exactly are the "wrong reasons" for liking John Lennon? Likewise, what would be the "right reasons" for liking him?

2-04-05 12:14pm (new)
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biped
Mr. Wonderful

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Your comics don't have any jokes in them, and saying that not having a joke in the comic is the joke doesn't count. And no, the Dion comics aren't "ironic."

If you're going to defend your comics, you should make better ones that are worth defending.

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2-04-05 1:00pm (new)
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