(That went over my head - i can't lose face by asking a question that shows up my ignorance on a subject - and since i've already had a warning from Brad about being hostile to people, the only other American option is to pretend i understood. :D )

Ah yes, quite true. Got to keep them organic syntheses reagented.

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So...

Stripcreator is populated by cliquey twats, most of whom exhibit these characteristics because they are inherently socially maladroit. This is because they are Americans.

Got it.

I wish I could offer some sort of remedy, but.... you know... I'm American. May you find some modicum of enjoyment here depsite the distastefully Americentric flavour of the Stripcreator user base.

Sincerely,
bunner

P.S: Can you ship me a bottle of HP? I'm out.

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I wanted my half in the middle and I wound up on the edge.

Seemingly so, for the mostpart, as i say.

I had to look up maladroit - and nice correct usage of 'whom' there, that's a rare sight. Not sure i'd say they were socially inept - depends what your standard is. How about 'socially different'?

A lot of things can be 'because you`re American' when it's a culture that restrictive.

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May you find some modicum of enjoyment here depsite the distastefully Americentric flavour of the Stripcreator user base.

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Not at all.

We'll see how it goes.

Ta.

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I wanted my half in the middle and I wound up on the edge.

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May you find some modicum of enjoyment here depsite the distastefully Americentric flavour of the Stripcreator user base.

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Ye gods... You're not actually implying that trolling is interesting, are you? I mean, anybody who claims to be a proponent of the lofty standards that you find so lacking here, surely must be above such banal behaviour?

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I wanted my half in the middle and I wound up on the edge.

Erm...what criteria are you using to deem trolling lowly?

Lofty standards? What, simple things like puns that have all three levels to them or people who understand any kind of rhetoric?

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I personally find trolling, as do most internet users, to be nothing more than an elabourate exercise in being a smirking, insulting pain in the ass from the safety of an anonymous internet conenction. It is, IMHO, the passtime of cowardly, spotty little boys who figured out that they can use the communucation based clients on the internet to give people shit and not, as they are well aware they would be in person,
get slapped upside the head for it.

It's.... low rent. You know? A wanker's pose.

Hence, this comic:

[ Posted comic does not exist ]

The lofty standards that I had ascribed to you, (in a rare fit of assumption), were not pertinent to any specific complaint on your part, as I was not aware that you had any specific complaints. It simply seemed as though you you were dissatisfied with the users of this site in general, and that the gist of your dissatisfaction was that you found the users here to be cliqueish, a bit below-standard intellectually, and .. worst of all: Americans.

I was simply offering a bit of placative and "Let's all bury the hatchet and enjoy whatever reasons we do come here for" olive branching.

I can see this particular exchange deteriorating rapidly, and, that being said; I think that this will be my last reply in this thread.

If you have any honest issues regarding this site, I wish you luck in resolving them in earnest.

I remain,
bunner

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I wanted my half in the middle and I wound up on the edge.

I realised that but 'We`ll see how it goes' was as far as i was prepared to go at this stage...

I don't see any reasons there for regarding trolling as lowly apart from 'because that`s what everyone else thinks'. I agree with the quote (or in this case a paraphrase) from Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back; 'The internet is a tool for slandering others anonymously' and i must add 'without fear of physical retalliation'.

Not to get ahead of myself here but when people i encounter in real life start to lose a debate about something important to them - when they're backed into a corner - they tend to get violent. Of course, this happens much less on the internet and they have to face up to inconsistencies in their argument.

Then again, sometimes when people try to use things that are part of their unquestionable paradigms to argue a case and someone else questions that, they often just dismiss the other person as a lost cause who 'isn`t being reasonable' and refuse to discuss it any further - in my experience.

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Well, that's one outlook, yeah.. but...

Going around spending all of your time getting in people's faces and basically saying "Oh, my.. aren't you full of shit? Please sit quietly while I explain, in an an elabourate and endless fashion just why you are full of shit, you pathetic idiot" isn't going to make you any friends anywhere -on line or in real life- is it?

The preponderance of the denizens of this small blue planet pretty much call those people "Fucking jerks."

It's a fact.

The world may seem, to some, to be nothing more than a constant challenge to their "obvious intellectual superiority" that must be dealt with in some ostensibly lofty and contentious fashion at every turn, but...

I think those motherfuckers have a lot more issues than the people that they're trying to sell their ostensibly lofty notions of superiority to.

With any luck, age and the ebbing degree of self-absorption that accompanies it, (if one is to make it to twenty-five without taking up residence in an emergency ward) allays such ridiculously contentious behaviour and whatever odd sense self-satisfaction that it may bring.

Time will tell.

I shall now, as you noted when you quoted me in an attempt to reinforce your contention that people are weak-minded idiots who simply abandon their "argument" when they are faced with the Great Truth® if it's insupportability, bugger off. : )

I close my replies to this exchange by wishing you a happy 25th birthday.

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I wanted my half in the middle and I wound up on the edge.

Me earlier:

With regards to real life, that's exactly why i talk like this on here: because if i did in real life...

1. I'd most likely get my head kicked in.
2. My transatlantic cousins don't seem to be as good at arguing.

...so it's best to get it all out on here rather than real life, which isn't as convenient.

If i'm understanding 'issues' correctly, then i never denied that - in fact, where do you think little sardonic bits like 'Sanitarium Graduate' come from?

Too late for that; see above.

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With any luck, age and the ebbing degree of self-absorption that accompanies it, (if one is to make it to twenty-five without taking up residence in an emergency ward) allays such ridiculously contentious behaviour and whatever odd sense self-satisfaction that it may bring.

Time will tell.

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Greetings, im the Artist ( only one as a matter of fact) at Cas ( Create a Strip for those slower among you). Though I Value the opinion of you all, im aware that my current status as an Artists is , well for lack of a better word, shit. I take no shame in admitting that I suck a great deal. I’ve seen some of your pictures here, and indeed they are better then mine by far, but were they always that way? Seems like the humble thing to do is not make fun of some one who isn’t as good as you. Im sure in time ill get better, perhaps one day as good as you. But right now im not. How would you like it if someone was belittling your attempt to try and learn to draw. What if some one told Vahn Goh, when he was a kid “ God damn it Vinny those things are shit! You should give up and go become a wine maker”. Would we have Starry Nite? No, I don’t believe so.

On a less then Artsy note. Why is it you care about CAS, when SC is so much clearly the better. People don’t Drink Coke because Diet Shafta Orange doesn’t have a good marketing department. They drink it because they like the taste.

Actually, Artist, Van Gogh never sold a painting in his life.

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Tochet...but My point still is Valid ? I Know im bad, and am working as Hard as i can to get better. People who make fun of people while there trying to learn somthing new, or get better, are really low i think.

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Greetings, im the Artist ( only one as a matter of fact) at Cas ( Create a Strip for those slower among you). Though I Value the opinion of you all, im aware that my current status as an Artists is , well for lack of a better word, shit. I take no shame in admitting that I suck a great deal. I’ve seen some of your pictures here, and indeed they are better then mine by far, but were they always that way? Seems like the humble thing to do is not make fun of some one who isn’t as good as you. Im sure in time ill get better, perhaps one day as good as you. But right now im not. How would you like it if someone was belittling your attempt to try and learn to draw. What if some one told Vahn Goh, when he was a kid “ God damn it Vinny those things are shit! You should give up and go become a wine maker”. Would we have Starry Nite? No, I don’t believe so.

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So ? that doenst make any diffrence, Its like TV, if you dont want to look at Shit, dont watch Cable Channels 20-500.

Just occured to me, i have been listening to your side haven't i?

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Also, what about Devient Art, or Elfwood. Arguably you could say that there is art there worse then mine( CAS is nto my best work by far, its just helping out a friend). There a Public Forum

Seemingly so, for the mostpart, as i say.

Call me crazy, but if the majority of members/posters at a site/forum annoy me, I'm not going to go there very much, if at all.

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Think classy, you'll be classy.

niteowl, how many paragraphs about trolling did you miss?

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Honestly, all of you people who are going to Create a Strip to create comics about how it's a ripoff of this one are giving stripcreator a bad image. If you don't like it, just leave it alone. Nobody on Create a Strip is going to listen to any of it anyway.

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Cheese is good.

I didn't miss anything. I was hoping that you had a decent excuse for coming to SC.

So basically you have no reason for being here except to annoy all us "cliquey twats".

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Think classy, you'll be classy.

LOL. According to Ekpyro, we've got a shitty image anyways.

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Think classy, you'll be classy.

Artist; while I agree that you shold be allowed the optimism to assume that your work, while early, will not be insulted when you put it up in public, I don't think you have a leg to stand on. By putting it up for free viewing by people who are used to freedom of speech you are inviting reaction; both critical and encouraging. Even if the people criticising are incapable of making the jump to constructive review, you should have it in you to learn despite their methods.

I agree with Ekpyros that there's no need to whine about a copycat; if you weren't so insecure then you would have no need to worry. Whether CAS survives or fails will ultimately be decided by it's merits. If you're sure it's crap, then what are you so worried about?

As for Ekpyros' crusade; massive generalisations are always a weak spot in debate. Hmm love that sentence. I can't honestly say that I've met less stupid Brits than Yanks, proportionally, though I suppose that comes down to personal experience.

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I didn't miss anything. I was hoping that you had a decent excuse for coming to SC.

So basically you have no reason for being here except to annoy all us "cliquey twats".

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