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boorite
crazy knife lady

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Hey Boo, if you want to do a mix tape swap, I'm all for it. I got a couple of folks to do it in the last CD swap and I think Ivy and I might do one too.


Cool. I'm in.

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10-20-04 8:42am (new)
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Ziggie
Stripcreator Newbie

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Heres a little math for ya !
KERRY = Gays, Lesbos, Dead Babies,( ABORTION SUCKS!! ) and Another Clinton - and thats all we need... oh yeah I forgot, More 9/11's.
So Kiss mine, I'm voting for Bush!

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10-20-04 4:22pm (new)
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kaufman
Director of Cats

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Heres a little math for ya !
KERRY = Gays, Lesbos, Dead Babies,( ABORTION SUCKS!! ) and Another Clinton - and thats all we need...

BUSH = homophobes, dead soldiers, a pariah in the global community, and another Reagan -- massive unemployment, staggering deficits, horrendous polution, corporate graft and corruption, and a president whose IQ is eclipsed by his age. That's what we don't need!

I forget ... on whose watch was the last 9/11?

Do your country a favor and stick an icepick up yours before election day, you bigoted troll.

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10-20-04 7:55pm (new)
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Enderandrew
Member - Tobor Fan Club

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Flate,

You label me while misquoting me. I ask if you have a response to any of my points, and you have none. Sure I had a lengthy post, but you can't dismiss posts over 800 words when you throw out a post of over 1,000 words to begin with.

You brought up topics, and I responded to each one.

To those who say I don't understand democracy, I say this. I gave you a definition of democracy. I didn't give you a definition of the US Government.

The two are different. Democracy, by definition, is not about protecting the minorities. Our Bill of Rights does do a lot to stand up for individual rights and freedoms. But the question at hand was in regards to the principle of democracy.

Democracy, in and of itself, is majority rule.

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10-20-04 8:11pm (new)
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Inflatable_Man
Heart stopper. Hip hopper. Pill popper.

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Enderandrew, I'm sure you have good points. And maybe my post was around 1,000 words. But I copied and pasted your post on to word and it was ten effin' pages!!! The 800 words thing was a suggestion. Hell, if you get it within 1,500 words I will be happy enough to read the whole thing and respond point by point. I'm currently bogged down in mid-terms week at my college. I'm currently buckling down for two different full-length plays that go on the day after the election. And I'm also studying for a political debate I have to be prepared for next week (in which case I suppose your post will be good practice). This is on top of trying to mantain some semblance of a social life and keep up with the Red Sox. I'm not evading your post. I'm merely asking you to keep what's important and save some of your other lesser points for another reply, because right now your post is an unwieldly monster.

All I'm asking is you trim the fat and give me something that won't take me three hours to respond to.

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Destroying my reputation one post at a time.

10-21-04 12:02am (new)
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M3t4
Member - Tobor Fan Club

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Hey genius Cheney's daughter is gay.

Gay duaghter+= Lesbos

Give me your address so I can send you a prize.

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10-21-04 12:43am (new)
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boorite
crazy knife lady

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To those who say I don't understand democracy, I say this. I gave you a definition of democracy. I didn't give you a definition of the US Government....

Democracy, in and of itself, is majority rule.


Your definition is incorrect. Here's the OED's:

"Government by the people; that form of government in which the sovereign power resides in the people as a whole, and is exercised either directly by them (as in the small republics of antiquity) or by officers elected by them. In modern use often more vaguely denoting a social state in which all have equal rights, without hereditary or arbitrary differences of rank or privilege."

Your misconception of democracy is often used by oligarchists and other detractors to invoke fear of "mob rule." What you describe is more properly called "ochlocracy."

Many in the US have complained about our "winner take all" form of elections, which is a de facto kind of "majority rule" and therefore a departure from the spirit of democracy. Varieties of "proportional representation" have the potential to address these complaints and are closer to a true "government by the people." In any case, democracy is not, in and of itself, "majority rule." It is government of, by, and for the people as a whole.

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10-21-04 7:50am (new)
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boorite
crazy knife lady

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Addendum: Admittedly, democratic forms may function as ochlocracies or, on the opposite end of the spectrum, as oligarchies. Both have occurred in the US. "Jim Crow" laws were a kind of mob rule where a minority was oppressed by a majority through democratic forms. I would not call Jim Crow laws democratic. I'd rather say that the democratic forms failed to function democratically.

On the other hand, I view our electoral and legislative processes as democratic forms that produce de facto oligarchies.

Neither of which is to say that democracy is, in and of itself, either ochlocracy or oligarchy. Quite the opposite.

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10-21-04 8:15am (new)
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MikeyG
Shoots the shit and often misses

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As kaufman has already pointed out, the system is supposed to have checks and balances. Nothing's fair, nothing's balanced, and has gotten progressively worse.

There's no reason to bash Clinton, he's out of office. If we can sit and bash Clinton because of the lasting effects of his policies and implementation, then we certainly should be able to rip ol' George, Sr. and Ronnie Ray-gun a few new ones. Hell, I'm sure we could be slapping Eisenhower around a bit.

Bush needs to go. Kerry is not much better. In the swing states, vote Kerry. In the others, vote Nader. Hey hey, ho ho, Gee Dubya Bee has got to go.

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10-21-04 10:56am (new)
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DragonXero
I'm Here, You're Queer, Get Used to it

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I'm in California. My state will vote Kerry if Kerry eats babies live and shoves their heads on stakes.

I'm voting Libertarian.

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10-21-04 10:47pm (new)
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boinky33
I'm with stupid ^

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Boorite's voting Librarian.

10-22-04 4:49am (new)
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boorite
crazy knife lady

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Socialized bibliography!

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10-22-04 6:31am (new)
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