New Jersey governor quits, comes out as gay

Of all the possible outcomes of the McGreevey scandal situation, this was probably the least likely one I expected to happen. Sure, a few times when we were making love, I thought, "What would happen if someone found out about the governor and me?" But, you always think it will happen to someone else.

I actually think this is a brilliant political move. Even if he escaped prosecution for the scandals it appears he was involved in, he was more or less politically dead in the water. This gives him some kind of life in the public eye and at least the respect of gay advocate groups.

It seems more or less likely he was blackmailed into this situation, though. Considering it appears he was complicit in the prostitution-blackmailing of a witness testifying against his administration, I can't say I'd feel much sympathy for him if this were the case.

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McGreevey officialy owned everone when he made this confession. Did he at least send you flowers?

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I think he may have been blackmailed into the resignation, but since there are so many accusations and allegations surrounding his tenure, I will reserve judgement on him until I can get some more information.

Whatever you think about him, though, it takes balls to come out to an entire state, especially when you're the one supposed to be running it.

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The giant three-phallused phallus of Uzbekistan will one day squirt the cosmic jizz of revenge all over Canada.

It takes balls to think coming out of the closet and admitting a gay affair will distract everyone from your involvement with real scandal, not to mention the part where you hold off on resigning long enough to rob the public of the right to elect a new leader.

If it was blackmail, Mikey, it's just desserts considering his involvement with attempting to blackmail a witness. I think you pretty much have to assume someone found out and was going public, he doesn't really seem like the kind of guy who would just come clean and do the right thing.

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Aaaah, perfect MaKK logic. Yes, I said I would reserve judgement until I did some more research. And dude, it DOES take balls to stand up in front of a press junket and tell them you're a flaming homo. Regardless of why. That's fucking balls right there.

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The giant three-phallused phallus of Uzbekistan will one day squirt the cosmic jizz of revenge all over Canada.

With the other option being outted by the media? And then trying to deny it if you didn't want to own up at that point? It sounds more like a giant attempt to distract the public from other more real wrong-doings. If he were really brave maybe he would have come out of the closet before marrying and having a child, and getting elected and getting finally caught having a gay affair. Balls indeed.

Balls would be saying that he is gay and staying in office.

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Argh...where do i start?

1) He didn't come out as a flaming homo--he came out as a gay american. He wasn't wearing a g-string and a boa, and he wasn't mincing around and lisping. If he were a flaming homo, he really wouldn't have had to say anything--people would have assumed. I think what you meant by the remark, Mikey, is that some people will always consider gays as flamers no matter their conduct, but by putting it that way it further demeans McGreevey and trivializes that opinion.

2) I'm not as informed on all the other scandals involving McGreevey, but it is pretty apparent that this latest threat was the straw that broke the camel's back. Absent everything else that he's accused of, he may have been able to weather his public outing and at least complete his term. Instead, we'll never know if at least one state would have accepted an openly-gay governor.

3) Balls would have been coming out, then running. Getting elected with a wife and kids, then coming out is deceptive and not a true test of whether NJ would have elected or accepted a gay governor. What McGreevey did yesterday was damage control--he got backed into a corner and had to admit who he is and what he's done on his own terms so that he would have the first chance at framing the ensuing media discussion.

4) The problem I have with his conduct is that in addition to all his other ethical problems, he put his trick on the government dole and cheated on his wife and has certainly hurt his children. I would imagine this happens in the straight world all the time, but when they do it, it's indiscretion--when we do it, we're depraved and immoral.

5) In California, there are plenty of openly gay politicians. My favorite example is the district attorney here in San Diego, because she's not just representing a predominantly gay part of town, but an entire county who thought she was the best candidate for the job. It seems though, at the national level or key state positions, the only time we find out a politician is gay is when he "bends over the pages" in the capitol or is otherwise caught in scandal. I hope if any good comes of this, it's that the people who originally had faith in McGreevey come to the conclusion that if they had known he was gay when they were in the voting booth that they still would have pulled his lever (so to speak).

There's more I can say on this, but I suppose I've said enough for now.

Two words:

"President Barney Franks."

Live the dream. Makk.

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...Trot and Cap'n Bill were free from anxiety and care. Button-Bright never worried about anything. The Scarecrow, not being able to sleep, looked out of the window and tried to count the stars.

Barney Franks I believe just admitted to being gay, not to having an affair. I don't know what you mean by live the dream, but ok, I will.

And that's three words, by the way.

I think Negative hit most everything on the head. The Governor could maybe have stayed in office if he was just coming out and admitting an affair, but at the very least it does seem to be a "one scandal too many" if not just a cover all together.

And of course your "lover" claiming to actually be your "victim" would compound the issue a tad as well. Not to mention another one allegedly being in your administration just doesn't seem to on-the-level.

Live the dream, fuzzyman.

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Yah, well, originally I was going to say "President Franks."

It't good to know you can count, though.

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...Trot and Cap'n Bill were free from anxiety and care. Button-Bright never worried about anything. The Scarecrow, not being able to sleep, looked out of the window and tried to count the stars.

I'd vote for a gay candidate. I wouldn't have a problem with a candidate announcing they were gay in the middle of their administration, and under reasonable circumstances I wouldn't expect they would need to resign.

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New Jersey smells funny.

/got nothing

Got nothing! I'd hit it!

/got nothing and i'd hit it

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OMG Makk vote for me!!!!11!!!1!

lol no.

/not voting for you

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"Hi I'm Governer James McGreevey, you know New Jersey DMV stories are legendary ... and so is my gigantic gay member!"

/sick of this slash crap already.

True. Very, very true. But also, this behavior doesn't necessarily indicate a flaming homo, either. Jesse Ventura certainly isn't homosexual.

Well, I guess this is simply my fault for the choice of words I used. Forgive me for making it seem like I consider all gay behavior to be flaming. I don't. I probably meant to say HOT!

Good point, and as I said, I have yet to judge him as an individual. All of what he said may very well turn out to be an intensely calculated statement, designed specifically to divert attention from his misconduct. Time will tell, possibly.

Yes, I have explained that this very well may be the case, and most likely IS the case. I still don't think that the majority of society is ready for gay politicians, and I think that McGreevey coming out as a gay man is still a really touchy thing to do, even if it is just a political move. You don't think it's a ballsy thing to do, ESPECIALLY if it's just damage control? I'm not saying he's a great guy or even a decent one. I am saying that he's got fucking huge cojones. He might be demeaning the entire idea of coming out, which is also quite likely, but you've got to have balls or psychosis to do it the way he did it.

No way, dude. I think it's an indiscretion no matter what the context. Gay, straight, it's fucked up either way. Cheating fucking sucks, for every party involved, unless you're a heartless fuck. He is a cheater. In probably quite a few different ways, I am sure. But he's a ballsy one. Maybe the scum of the earth, maybe just a schmuck. Who knows.

This is why it's quite possibly detrimental to a whole shitload of people. I mean, he comes out in the midst of all this scandal and resigns, isn't that just adding fuel to the already hateful rhetoric of some of the opposition?

Great point. That's what I was trying to get at in the previous paragraph. I don't like the fact that he is embroiled in scandal and all of a sudden he is gay, but I think the man has got balls the size of Texas, and you can take that whetever way you want.

I think, though, that because of the way he did this, and did not come out beforehand, etc., that it will probably hurt gay politicians and their causes. I think this simply because historically the politicians you find out are gay "later" on, only do so because of scandal. I think that this method of revelation is causing all gay politicians to be painted with the same brush. It's reminiscent of all the old pulp novels and currents of thought that ran through a lot of old literature and movies. The gay character in older novels was always the villain. You'll still find a lot of this in current movies and literature.

I would like to hear the rest of your thoughts on this.

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The giant three-phallused phallus of Uzbekistan will one day squirt the cosmic jizz of revenge all over Canada.

"I'd hit it!!!!"

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*p.s. rosie o donnell would hit it.

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Piscipo '04!

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It's true. Even Todd Haynes, a flaming faggit from the planet Homo doesn't portray gay people in a positive light. He made Dennis Quaid look like a fool in that bogus All That Heaven Allows / Ali: Fear Eats The Soul update... Far From Heaven.

And yes, Todd Haynes really is a flaming faggit from the planet Homo. He's rented from our store. Don't mess.

"Gay man tearfully admits to being governor of new jersey"

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