I sorta threw in some turmoil into Pita's "Miss Y'all" thread in GD, and I'm sorry about that. Let's talk about fat people and eating habits here instead. Okay. Me first.

Kajun and I are on the same page--the difference is I have had a weight problem, so I approach this debate with the same perspective ex-smokers have about smoking...yewwwww!

Having been seriously overweight for all of my twenties, it kills me to now look back at pictures of me during that time. I never thought my weight was due to anything but my own eating habits, though. When I finally made a conscious decision to get healthy, I stopped eating meals high in fat and calories and started moving more. My original goal was to lose 20 pounds...that was 70 pounds ago. I've been on a plateau for a few years now, but I'm starting to lose again, and if things go well, I should be at my ideal weight by the end of this year.

I know a few other people who lost weight the same way I did, and we all have the same outlook on both unhealthy eaters and fad dieters. We look at overweight people stuffing their pie holes with...um...pie and other garbage and shake our heads (especially when they blame their genetics for their weight). We listen to fad dieters talk about this diet or that one and know that they'll have short term gains but ultimately gain it back when they give up the impossible eating plan. Since I changed my eating habits, I've noticed changes in my taste--high fat or high sugar foods no longer taste good to me, but there is no food that is absolutely off limits. I eat the same food the fatties are eating, just not as much or as often.

I look at the rising cost of health care coupled with the rising rates of obesity in the U.S. and I think health insurance rates should be based on weight. Establish a height/weight baseline and give discounts to people within acceptable limits and charge extra for people outside healthy limits (on both ends). You want to motivate people to eat better and exercise--hit them in their wallets.

I was an exceedingly skinny kid growing up, and didn't really need to watch my weight until my early 30's, when i started packing on the pounds. Let's hear it for a slowing metabolism. Unfortunately, growing up naturally scrawny worked against me at this point -- I had no habits in terms of exercize, eating healthy, portion control, and so on.

A couple of years ago I tried Atkins. I dropped 47 pounds over the course of a year, and was 25 pounds away from my college-graduation weight. My cholesterol was better, I had more energy, had cut back on caffiene significantly, and fewer stomach problems.

Part of this, I'm sure, was due to changes that went along with the diet. I ate in between meals much less, I'd consume no non-nutritional carbs (drinking whiskey instead of beer, yay).

I gained much of the weight back during that year my mother was dying, where I didn't give a shit and ate everything in sight, including plenty of ice cream. My weight is on it's way back down again, on Atkins and coupled with plenty of exercize.

My own take on Atkins steers away from high-fat where I can. Lots of turkey, chicken, and fish, and making sure there enough vegatables in my diet every day.

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...Trot and Cap'n Bill were free from anxiety and care. Button-Bright never worried about anything. The Scarecrow, not being able to sleep, looked out of the window and tried to count the stars.

The problem with the Atkins diet is that while it helps people lose weight, it's also exceedingly bad for you at the same time. It looks like you've gotten around that. What you're doing isn't really the Atkins diet anymore... it's the "eating less and exercising" diet choad was talking about.

The reason fad diets last -- and the reason why some people swear they work while others insist they're fruitless -- is that they work for some people and not others.

A study I heard on NPR compared Weight Watchers, Atkins, and two other diets I'd never heard of. They determined that some of them worked better for some people than others. But the #1 finding -- certain way outside the margin of error -- was that the people who lost the most weight were the ones who actually stuck to whatever diet they were using. In other words: the best way to lose weight is self-control.

Actually, I understand that exercise is a better way to lose weight than dieting... although my source for that info is a personal trainer and so isn't terribly objective.

I personally got thinner when I just stopped eating so fucking much.

You mean whiskey is nutritional? I think I see a new fad diet in the making!

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peddling the funny around since 09/24/2002

I think he means whisky has fewer carbs than beer. Which explains my enviable figure.

Quiet. You're ruining my prospects of making billions on the SoCal Whiskey Diet.

Did you know that whiskey is actually a food group? Buy my book to learn how to drink yourself to fitness!

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peddling the funny around since 09/24/2002

Man Fat people piss me off...

In school there is a small herd of them. We had a Potluck lunch for the class and those ladies actaully pushed people out of the way, took full bowls of food and boxes of chocolates and basically left the buns for other people. The funny thing is that they think they are hot at the same time...

Ok not all fat people suck just the ones that are fat because of their mouths...

One of them makes me laugh pretty hard, we have a small staircase and everythime sdhe goes up she huffs and puffs really hard like an asmatic, but at the same time she stuffs her face with chips or something, Puff huff chew chew (mouth open of course) puff puff. You can hear the huffing and puffing throughout the school (small school).

Anyway those are my stories on fat people, myself, I am 6'3" tall and 200lbs with no fat (good old metabolism and excersize).

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I dumb :D

This is what I'm planning ahead for. I have an insanely fast metabolism and have never had a weight problem because of it.

Since childhood I've always had a more than healthy appetite. While I don't eat a lot of shit, I do eat a lot and I've heard "it'll all catch up with you" since I was about 7. So while I laugh my arrogant laugh at these people struggling with their newest fad diets and say "nah, it'll never happen to me" I am aware that, in most likelyhood, it will.

For the past two years I've been more aware of my eating and exercise habits. I walk 2 miles every day just getting to work (rather than driving to the train station), I eat a piece of fruit every time someone from the office is going to buy cakes and I try to make sure that I don't eat the same colour of fruit/veg twice in one day. I don't drink soft drinks except for one can of Irn-Bru when I get home from work. At work I'll have a pint of milk or maybe some lucozade sport (if I'm really thirsty).

The rest of my day tends to consist of a couple of bacon rolls for breakfast, a pub lunch (with at least one pint of lager) and more-often-than-not a large dinner. People I work with focus on this and say things like "I wish I could just eat whatever I want and not care, like you". Which is bullshit, it's not that I don't care, it's just that I do enough to make sure that I can get away with it.

Writing this post is probably the most thought I've put into my eating habits. To be honest it just seems like common sense. If I'm eating a McDonald's or a Subway sandwich, I know that it's wrong, there's a very loud voice that says "this ISN'T food, jackass".

Fast food is like masturbation, ultimately what you'd like is a tasty main-course, but this is easier than putting in all the ingredients and effort.

Then afterwards you can't be arsed exercising at all.

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Dad was flammable

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Actually, I understand that exercise is a better way to lose weight than dieting... although my source for that info is a personal trainer and so isn't terribly objective.

I personally got thinner when I just stopped eating so fucking much.

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Smoking is great.

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possible savior probable SEX MACHINE

I have a question for choad:

My parents are trying to diet and lose a little bit of weight. Neither are obese by any sense of the word, just each is packing a spare tire.

Now my parents EAT. They eat nearly all day long without thinking about it. What can they snack on that's not going to add more pounds, but will fill in the hungry gaps between meals (also, I suspect the snacking isn't just hunger, they're both ex-smokers)?

And don't say rice cakes, it'll never happen.

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Mediocrity at its most average.

Fruit.

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Dad was flammable

And cock, of course.

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The giant three-phallused phallus of Uzbekistan will one day squirt the cosmic jizz of revenge all over Canada.

Celery actaulyl burn more calories than it gives, though putting bacon and peanut butter on it kinda kills that

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I dumb :D

I've always been quite skinny, even before I started majorly growing. I have a fast metabolism, a huge amount of energy and eat like crazy. When I was growing about three inches in seventh-eighth grade (I used to be one of the shorter kids), people thought I had some sort of eating disorder until they'd see me inhale a few hamburgers (and not throw them up later). Hopefully my appetite will wane once my weight has caught up with me, but if not, I guess I'll worry about that then.

Personally, I don't really blame slightly overweight people. If I wasn't lucky about having a growth spurt and fast metabolism, I'd probably be on the chubby side too. Absolutely obese people, however, should work on it, if only for their health. I've never had a body problem, but I've played piano for years and have gone through phases where I just wanted to quit because it felt too hard or took too much time. I still practiced though, because I knew it would pay off in the end, and I'm so glad that I did. I figure the same sort of thing applies.

And yes, I know that for some people, it is genetic, but for a lot of people that seems like a fallback excuse to themselves.

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I think, therefore I make comments on a forum.

I was almost underweight a year ago but high school slapped twenty pounds on me. I still am pretty thin, though. I probably should start working out before I get too used to eating ten pounds of fast food and not gaining anything.

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all the wrong things for all the right reasons

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I have a question for choad:

My parents are trying to diet and lose a little bit of weight. Neither are obese by any sense of the word, just each is packing a spare tire.

Now my parents EAT. They eat nearly all day long without thinking about it. What can they snack on that's not going to add more pounds, but will fill in the hungry gaps between meals (also, I suspect the snacking isn't just hunger, they're both ex-smokers)?

And don't say rice cakes, it'll never happen.

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I'm 6'1'' 190 with little fat because of exercise and all. I played sports in HS so that helped a bit.

I eat like a cow but I have a great metabolism so as I get older I'm prolly gonna get chunkier if I don't change my eating habits.

Some of my friends are overweight BECAUSE of genetics, but they're not terribly fat. Maybe just chunky, but they're not unhealthy. There's a few fat girls in my school who think they're hot. I mean, they wear tight pants and shirts and you can see their damn thongs sticking out. It's so gross. Yet, all the skinny, pretty girls think they're fat and ugly. I will never understand females.

I'm 5'10" and I keep very thin. I jog a couple miles every morning, and I walk everywhere instead of using my car. I also eat fairly healthily. I'm not a super organic nut but I do shop at health food stores for my chips and snacky things.

To me, looking good is part of feeling good, so that's where most of my incentive is for it. I'm not doing it for the rest of Earth to admire, I just like being able to admire myself.

And a message to the overweight: Stop wearing belly shirts! Jesus!

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Could this be...THE BURIAL MASK OF AGAMEMNON?!

All my weight goes straight to my ass.

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It's grime time.

What, even my "Hello Kitty" one?

Message to fat people:

Build more muscle. if you have more muscle, you burn more calories, even without exercising, just in your dailly routine. Its pretty simple, people...

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There was once a man who said:"nothing is true!". Although later it was found out that he was lying.

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Message to fat people:

Build more muscle. if you have more muscle, you burn more calories, even without exercising, just in your dailly routine. Its pretty simple, people...

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Oh yeah, back in high school when my mom was constantly belittling my weight (which actually was ideal, she just comes from a ballet dancer-type physique family) I went on a low fat diet and that really dropped the pounds (like I really needed to).

And I started on the low fat thing again after I got rid of the Crazy Ex-Neighbor and basically started a new life.

Personally, I can't stand high fat/greasy foods much anymore because they make me feel ill. I get pizza, Chinese, and fast food occasionally (more than I'd like lately), but I mostly eat healthy because I actually like it. I can't stand too much sugar (except for that Dr. Pepper addiction) and I avoid salt as best I can. (Though my doctor actually prescribed more salt in my diet to help raise my blood pressure from the current corpse-like levels. Like I ever listen to that jackass).

I have a friend who is rather obese and just doesn't care. Restaurants can be quite akward. The only time I ever eat large meals is when he comes over, but that's not too often. Don't tell him, but when I cook, I use fat free ingredients and the occasional soy protien. He abhors all vegetables except potatoes. And he barely tolerates corn.

Plus I don't eat other meals if I know a large supper is coming. Or if I have a large breakfast or lunch, I'll just snack for the rest of the day at the most.

I wouldn't recommend my habits of constantly skipping meals (my philosophy is why bother to eat a meal if I'm not hungry at the moment) or calling a granola bar a meal. But that's just me.

Crap, I should go back to work. I have to get soaking wet in the parking lot.

I've lost about 45lbs in the last 6 months. But I did mine on the Stress/No Eating Diet. I'm waiting for it to come back.

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dcomposed:11-06-05: If I was a viking invading your village, you'd be the first to get raped.
Crabby: 10/5/06: i would love to feed you fresh fruit while bathing you.

Ever notice that when you don't eat a meal, people assume you have an eating disorder? Or is that just me?

Frankly, it drives me bananas. Society is too caught up in the "three squares a day" idea and when I eat only because I'm hungry, it's like I'm some sort of freak. No, I'm not starving myself; if I was, you could tell. Most of the time I don't eat breakfast or I'll grab a granola bar mid morning. On my days off, I never eat breakfast and rarely eat lunch. On the days I do, my reaction is more "Well, I guess I should eat something."

Lunch used to be the most important meal I ate, highly ritualized, with breakfast and supper being largely ignored. Now it's supper being the most important.

Conclusion: Society sucks.