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Buttonman
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... making strips twice the previous size in kilobytes while rendering exactly the same length and width.

Is this deliberate, some undiscussed benefit?

Or is it perhaps a product of moving.

The new extra weight adds mucho overhead to the page where they are displayed.

Can you enlighten me?

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9-20-06 9:56pm (new)
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Brad
Feature Creep

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I just rendered a couple and haven't noticed this. Do you have any examples laying around?

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9-21-06 5:50am (new)
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Buttonman
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if this one lasts long enough

it's 105992 bytes

that's big for a png compared to earlier ones.

It's no crisis but it doubles the picture overhead on the page when I run a series

:)

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9-21-06 9:49am (new)
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Brad
Feature Creep

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That's odd because nothing has changed on the PNG rendering server. I'm thinking about switching it to jpeg anyways as the PNGs are just naturally pretty large.

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9-22-06 1:29pm (new)
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TheGovernor
Talentless Hack

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if the renderer made images png 8 rather than 32, the output size would be a lot smaller without a noticable drop in quality.

11-15-06 4:13am (new)
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Xuanwu
The Professor

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So far I haven't had any issues with PNG sizes.


Please don't change it to JPEG. PNG is nice because you don't get visual artifacts. (Text also looks better with PNG.) Converting PNG to JPEG is pretty easy for those who prefer JPEG for size reasons, but if the file is natively JPEG, there's no way to recover the quality. Just something to consider.

11-15-06 10:51am (new)
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Injokester
Definitely drunk

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More colours = larger file size. Were you using the same background before? That particular bg will chunk out the file. Try it with a plain colour or no background and see what size it comes to.

PNG's are only large if there are a lot of colours.

Personally I hate JPEG, it sacrifices a lot of quality for a minor reduction in file size. As Xuan said it'll either have serious artifact issues or make very little difference. On the other hand though, it's quicker to take a screen dump than wait for the renderer anyway, and then people can have any format they like.

GIF's are better if you can limit the colours correctly and if the program you use is good enough (photoshop make beautiful GIF's, paint GIF's are laughable). The other problem here being that some images need more colours. 128 would probably do for most images though. Alternately you'd have to do a seperate render feature for 64/128/256 colours.

A better solution would probably be to change all the backgrounds to GIF's instead of JPEG, with as few colours as possible- this would reduce the file size of all the backgrounds, fix the renderer (the PNG files would be limited to the same number of colours as the cumulative GIF's used) and ease the drain on your bandwidth somewhat.

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11-20-06 4:52am (new)
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BobRogers
Getting Better

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Down as of all day.

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12-09-06 7:32pm (new)
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Brad
Feature Creep

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I managed to break the PNG server today. I hope to have it back up tomorrow. I'm sorry I'm so dumb.

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12-09-06 7:42pm (new)
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crabby
I have an awesome avatar.

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We all love you Brad.

12-09-06 7:49pm (new)
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Brad
Feature Creep

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PNG rendered should be back up now. Much swearing was done to achieve this.

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12-10-06 2:16pm (new)
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Brad
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I think the fonts are a little goofy looking on the renders now, I'll look into that soon.

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12-10-06 2:32pm (new)
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BobRogers
Getting Better

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You beat me to it. I was just gonnas ask.

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12-10-06 2:36pm (new)
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Brad
Feature Creep

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I think the fonts should be fixed now.

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12-11-06 4:25pm (new)
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BobRogers
Getting Better

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The PNG renderer is not picking up the new background "Matrix" as of the time I discovered this marvelous new BG group.

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12-13-06 11:36am (new)
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BobRogers
Getting Better

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The PNG-R is still dropping new backgrounds.

Grr. 

 

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12-14-06 3:08pm (new)
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Brad
Feature Creep

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I think there was a problem with the category background cache. See if it's any better now.

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12-14-06 5:09pm (new)
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BobRogers
Getting Better

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No more "Grr."

 More now like "Prrrr."

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12-14-06 11:30pm (new)
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crabby
I have an awesome avatar.

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BobRogers

What a weirdo.

12-16-06 2:22am (new)
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BobRogers
Getting Better

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Am I just having a streak of really bad luck?

The renderer seems to never do anything but time out these past two days.

I was afraid to say anything for fear Crabby would jump my ass. 

 

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12-16-06 11:28pm (new)
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crabby
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BobRogers

You post around here dressed like that and expect me not to jump your ass? You know you wanted it, baby.

12-17-06 12:46am (new)
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BobRogers
Getting Better

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Well, when you put it like that...

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12-17-06 6:53am (new)
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Brad
Feature Creep

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BobRogers

The renderer server blew up the other week and I had to rebuild it on a new machine so it's likely to be a little weird. It looks like it's stalling for some reason. Let me know if it happens again, I'll put some testing stuff in place.

And if crabby bothers you, just let me know.

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12-17-06 9:49am (new)
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BobRogers
Getting Better

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Thanks Brad. Happy Holidays to everyone.

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12-17-06 3:11pm (new)
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pisces
Stripcreator Newbie

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crabby

What a weirdo.


why are yo so mean to people crabby??

so the png render only for donors? does brad only take paypal for online donation or is there another onlien donate thingie i can use?

12-22-06 8:58pm (new)
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