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ObiJo
June 21, 2002 12:01 PM

I'm new to photo editing and learning the tricks of the trade by DexX's advice and personal experimentation. I thought it would be both fun and educational to start a thread devoted to technique.

For instance, I am borrowing a friend's digital camera for my Vegas trip that starts Sunday. It's super light sensitive though and reflects white like mad. Here's some proof (sorry about the file size, but I wanted to present it exactly as the camera saves it):

(Take my word for it: this is not bad photography on his part, but rather what the camera does to all light colors in images.)

So, I want to learn how to make this picture look decent, but I don't know the best way to do it. So, anyone who wants to can edit the picture and resubmit their improved picture, or even a failed attempt they don't understand, or whatever else. If more than one person does this, then chances are everyone will learn something, even the sooper eleet f0t0 h4><()rs.

So this isn't a compettition, it's a cooperation. A photoshopping hippy commune of sorts. Thought it would be a fun way to learn. If anyone's interested, just post an improved version of the above picture with an explanation of what you did. Or post another picture you want to see improved. Or whatever else you want. (There is no can't in hippy commune as the hippies sleeping in my tub like to say.)

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ObiJo
June 21, 2002 12:04 PM

I'm the one standing second from the right, by the way.

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KajunFirefly
June 21, 2002 12:54 PM

Sorry Obi, I tried, but I'm running 5.5 at home and I don't have all the filters I'm used to using.

The attempt I made was basically just as crappy, but at the other end of the spectrum, with far too much contrast and it looked overexposed. :-(

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skagg
June 21, 2002 1:03 PM

i got easy colour filters and balanceing thingies on my one. ill see what i can do.

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KajunFirefly
June 21, 2002 1:18 PM

I was thinking of using the burn tool then a lighter sponge tool to clean it up a bit, it could do with a slight Gaussian blur, but that's just my opinion.

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joshw
June 21, 2002 1:38 PM

Yeah, it's like, whoa! Hi-res photoshop batch compositing totally blows my mind.

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DexX
June 22, 2002 9:08 AM

Damn, Obi - you're only a few kilos heavier than me. Is this a post-wonder-diet pic?

I had a friend who was well over 250kg (550lb), and I suspect he may have hit 300kg at one stage. As such, it is hard for me to think of anyone else as being truly fat.

I'll wrangle the pic and post a new version in a little while.

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wirthling
June 22, 2002 2:20 PM

A question for the Scots (and English?): How does one convert "stone" to "pound"?

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KajunFirefly
June 22, 2002 2:41 PM

There are 14lbs in a Stone.

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DexX
June 22, 2002 8:42 PM

My two attempts...


Your main problem is all the pure white in your original. Take a look at Obi's shirt, and the shirt of the woman to his right (his left from his perspective). Their shirts are mostly pure white, and there is no visible border between them. If the picture had been exposed properly, there would have been an edge there. The only way to put a border in is basically to hand-draw it - the washing out effect has eliminated a lot of detail, and a lot of colour information.

I suggest your friend takes his camera to be serviced, because no amount of photoshoppery is going to fix that pic.

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ObiJo
June 23, 2002 1:58 AM

quote:
Damn, Obi - you're only a few kilos heavier than me. Is this a post-wonder-diet pic?
Nope, but it was about two years ago and about 50 pounds under my highest weight. I'm guessing I was about 350 there, and eventually reached 400, give or take. Now I'm around 295, so my belly's smaller, my face is thinner, but other than that I look about the same.

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I had a friend who was well over 250kg (550lb), and I suspect he may have hit 300kg at one stage. As such, it is hard for me to think of anyone else as being truly fat.
Have a sister?

I hope by "had a friend" you mean you fell out of contact with him, and not that something happened to him. When I was around 400 pounds, my heart was fluttering daily, and I truly thought I was going to die. And all I could think was "Great, you've eaten yourself to death, you stupid fuck." Not a pleasant way to go.

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Thanks for trying on the picture. I tried myself and made it much worse. Too high a brightness + low resolution seems like a deadly mix as far as cleaning potential. I'm thinking about taping a light polarizer over the aperture and see if this reduces the light intake and improves quality. If I do, I'll post the effects when I get back.

I actually thought your first picture was a great improvement, DexX. Could you explain what you did?

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DexX
June 23, 2002 5:08 AM

In Photoshop... uh... whatever version I use... 6, I think...

(Menu) Image -> Adjust -> Brightness/Contrast...

Drop the brightness a bit, and it goes a bit grey, raise the contrast a bit to get rid of the greyness. Fiddle with both until you get the best possible result.

Then...

(Menu) Image -> Adjust -> Hue/Saturation...

Drop the lightness slightly (you'll know how much by looking at the preview) and raise the saturation a bit.

That's how I did the first one. The second one was a single hit of Image -> Adjust -> Auto Levels. Not a bad job for a single-click feature.

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boorite
June 24, 2002 8:05 AM

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DexX
June 24, 2002 9:36 AM

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Drexle
June 24, 2002 9:42 AM

How do you guys cast shadows like that one in DexX's TOBOR edit? I feel that I could improve my edits drastically if I could do it.

I'm using Adobe Imageready 2.0 for the actual edit work, and save it in Photoshop 5.5, by the way.

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DexX
June 24, 2002 10:11 AM

I made the shadow manually. It is a copy of Tobor's layers, painted black, made 80% opaque and set to "multiply", distorted a bit to fit the wall, and slightly Gaussian-blurred.

Nothing to it... :P

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Kevin_Keegans_Perm
June 24, 2002 6:03 PM

Tobor isnt wearing his bunny slippers

SACRILEGE

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DexX
June 24, 2002 9:34 PM

Bunny slippers are house wear. D'uh...

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JrnymnNate
June 24, 2002 10:33 PM

Did a Combo of DexX's advice...
1. Under Image/Adjust - Auto Levels(Shft+Ctrl+L)
2. Under Image/Adjust - Brightness, changed to -7, Contrast, +22
3. Gaugassian Blur- Radius .3 pixles
The colors are still a little offset... should of adjusted hue.

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wirthling
June 24, 2002 10:41 PM

quote:
should of adjusted hue

Should have said "should have."

I'm too lazy to log in as DrPedantic right now...

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JrnymnNate
June 24, 2002 10:54 PM

Around here we say should of, shoulda or should've.

Right fuzzy? Back me up on this.

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Drexle
June 24, 2002 11:22 PM

quote:
Around here we say should of, shoulda or should've.

Right fuzzy? Back me up on this.



Where I live, it's "Shoulda" or "Should've" which is generally understood to be a contraction of "Should have." "Should of" just makes no sense at all.

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DexX
June 24, 2002 11:51 PM

Okay, Nate, you asked for this....

"have done" is the present perfect tense of the verb "do". "should" indicates modality, and this particular mood requires the verb that it modifies to be in present tense, either imperfect the "do" or the perfect "have done". English is confusing in this regard because, although "have done" is two words, it is actually a single verb, and that verb's modality is affected by the preceding "should".

This confusion is compounded when English speakers create a contraction that involves only one word of the verb cluster. "should've" is formed when the weak "h" sound is entirely dropped, the the "a" is destressed to a shwa (represented by the upside-down "e", sounds like "uh") making something like "shood'uhv".

The problem after this is that some kids grow up saying "should've" and are never told that it is a contraction for "should have". When they have to write it down, they write it like it sounds, and it sounds like "should of", which makes no grammatical sense. This is the reason, in my opinion, for a lot of spelling and grammatical errors - people pronounce things incorrectly, and then try to write it as they say it.

Sorry, Nate, but you asked for that.

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TheBlairZip
June 25, 2002 7:12 AM

I blame the public school system.

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Drexle
June 25, 2002 8:22 AM

quote:
I blame the public school system.

"Blame yourself or God!" --Delita

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