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kaufman
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Et tu, Zaster? Et tu?

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1-03-05 10:51am (new)
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MikeyG
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No, telling someone they should not make jokes is trying to censor them. Telling them that they offended you is not. Telling them that they may offend someone else is not. Telling someone not to say what they said is censoring them, period.

Yes. I agree, but that doesn't mesh with the previous statement. I don't mean to get pedantic, but censorship is censorship, and if you've got a problem with words you shouldn't give power to them.

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I think bad taste has it's place in humor. Then again, I think there is something to be said for good taste as well. After all, society is full of tasteless and tedious bullcrap just waiting to be made fun of. That puts tragedies way down on the list of targets for me, personally.

Ah, see, bad taste, to me, is not Britney Spears and what not. That's just shit. Bad taste is saying or doing something that seems offensive at first, but after the offense gives way, the person affected looks at the material and says, "What a strange perspective! Maybe we're all being a bit ridiculous." Bad taste, to me, is something akin to truth. Bill Hicks was described as tasteless, especially when he did a bit about Tiffany and Debbie Gibson shutting their mall-pop whore mouths by munching each others' boxes.

As I said, I tend to crack jokes about the things that bother me the most. It helps me feel better about them, and if more people learned to do that instead of wallowing in fucking misery, maybe things would be better.

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1-03-05 11:50am (new)
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BobRogers
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How intensely enriching this place is - no sarcasm intended. I have explored humor here at StripCreator in only a couple of vertical ways, one being the incredibly ho-hum "JDPLVY" series that makes The Grass Growing Channel on cable look exciting.

The times I have expanded into currrent events have triggered discussions that I find stimulating and diverse. In the end, for me though, it comes down to one thing...

I'm an attention whore looking for a dick.

Seems that I've struck the mother lode, and for that, my ego and libido both thank you all.

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1-03-05 1:22pm (new)
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Inflatable_Man
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Tsunami aside, I hope we can still agree Bob Rogers is a tool. And he has an unhealthy obsession with a troll who left months ago, which leads me to believe he is in fact that troll.

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1-03-05 1:42pm (new)
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MikeyG
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I will agree that there is most certainly something disingenuous or shady about BobRogers and his claims.

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The giant three-phallused phallus of Uzbekistan will one day squirt the cosmic jizz of revenge all over Canada.

1-03-05 1:52pm (new)
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Zaster
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I'm an attention whore looking for a dick.

Seems that I've struck the mother lode, and for that, my ego and libido both thank you all.


Whatever gets you through, I guess. But if you haven't noticed, the conversation is no longer strictly about you.

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1-03-05 2:12pm (new)
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Zaster
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Unless I have the power to enforce that dictum (or offer a credible threat of doing so), I still wouldn't call it censorship. Still, I appreciate the distinction you're trying to make.


Looks like we're at an impasse over the definition of "bad taste", then. To me, you seem to be describing the low-brow end of satire. I've seen plenty of humor that I personally would describe as being in "bad taste" which offers no insight or worthwhile perspective on anything. Usually, it isn't terribly funny because some nugget of insight is almost a necessary ingredient for humor.


I haven't heard it. Since it's about the lifestyles of the bitchin' famous though, It sounds far removed from jokes about tsunami victims.


I respect that, but there is a certain luxury in being able to do it. I'm not suggesting that you take that luxury for granted, but to me it feels a little too easy to sit making comics about someone else's plight while they're out there somewhere looking slow death in the eye.

But I realize I'm making some pretty arbitrary distinctions. Some of my comics would probably be pretty low from many peoples' points of view.

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1-03-05 3:00pm (new)
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Zaster
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Hey... sprechen sie the lingua franca, will ya?

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1-03-05 3:07pm (new)
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BobRogers
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I resent being catagorized in that fashion. A troll, by definition is a non-participant, an interloper who disrupts the flow of a forum. I have worked very hard to find a groove, something trolls don't do. You have hurt my feelings. I will be sulking for the next twenty minutes or so.

what claim would that be?

I think I should reiterate that I am not JDPLVY. Look at the dates on my strips. Then look at the brief time that PLVY spent here getting punked by the group. I do what many people do, which is to use SC comix to entertain a group of my friends outside the SC universe.

As a doner, I have arrived at a certain level of "don't give a shit" where the opinion of other SC authors are concerned. and yet I pay attention, because there is stuff to learn.

I was attempting to compliment a diversity in the comments. Sorry about that if that constitutes trollism. As for the rest of it, I was just being Self-effacing, a trick that works for others as near as I can tell.

Since I'm obviously a moron, I guess that silence is probably golden and I should go back to listening for a while longer.

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1-03-05 4:01pm (new)
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niteowl
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Why make a thread for all of SC to see then?

You seem miffed at the reaction you're getting to the comic. You knew that the title of the thread would get people to read it, and provoke a response...otherwise you would've made the title of the thread, "Read my new comic".

I'm not really offended by the comic itself, but I can certainly see how some others would be if they have family or friends dealing with the tragedy. I am extremely offended at the unfunniness of it though.

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1-03-05 5:12pm (new)
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BobRogers
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Actually, that's what I did. And I am a only miffed at being mistaken for actually being JDPLVY, not miffed at the reaction to the comic.

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1-03-05 5:32pm (new)
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niteowl
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Weird, I thought the title of this thread was "Can Anyone Be More Tasteless". Maybe I'm seeing things.

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1-03-05 5:41pm (new)
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BobRogers
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It was posted in "Read My Damn Comics" and Brad moved it.

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1-03-05 10:04pm (new)
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BobRogers
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[Click to view comic: 'Bob's Cartoons Suck - this one is the worst']

This one is 33% less crappy!

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1-03-05 10:13pm (new)
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niteowl
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I'm not talking about where this was posted originally. The point I was trying to make is that the title of this thread provokes negative responses. You basically asked to be flamed for it.

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1-04-05 3:30am (new)
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MikeyG
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But I realize I'm making some pretty arbitrary distinctions. Some of my comics would probably be pretty low from many peoples' points of view.

Sometimes, the insight in humor is not evident. Other times, poking fun at a catastrophe is necessary to burst the bubbles of the overly dramatic mourners who have no real stake in the catastrophe other than to have something to mourn and be accepted by other mourners, or more importantly the observers of the mourning process, as someone who cares.

That being said, this tsunami business is ridiculous. Granted, there is little that mankind can do in the face of Nature's wrath, even at mankind's most brilliant, but there is a global warning system in place for a reason. Third World Countries' upper echelon (government, warlords, etc.) DO have access to telephones. The places that were hit were NOT all third world countries. A simple phone call, say from one of the scientists who monitor worldwide earthquake activity, to some other scientists or similar personnel in these countries saying, "Dude, big ol' quake in the sea. Might wanna ditch the coasts for a while." would have saved quite a few people. Well, at least we would hope for that. Point is, that didn't happen and it should have.

Aside from that, Zaster, I like your contributions to this site both comic-wise and forum-wise. I respect your opinions and marvel at how rationally and respectfully you can make your points. There is a marked lack of such behavior in this site.

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The giant three-phallused phallus of Uzbekistan will one day squirt the cosmic jizz of revenge all over Canada.

1-04-05 6:02am (new)
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BobRogers
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Yup. That's true. And I was going to be a dick abut it, but I have a cold and don't feel up to it.

Anyhow, miffed ain't the same as mad. And it's a pretty good thread.

I win.

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1-04-05 7:22am (new)
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kaufman
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1-04-05 7:25am (new)
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boorite
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I can't think of anything funny to say about the disaster. Boinky pulled it off by making fun of the news coverage. Me, I got nothin'. The suffering is on an unimaginable scale. And still, as holocausts go, it scarcely makes a dent, as Ivy pointed out. How can it be that 150,000 people get snuffed, and it's no big deal? What a strange world.

I think of the bloodbath that accompanied our man Suharto's power-grab in Indonesia-- same numbers, but not remembered. I think of our bombing of Indochina, which killed at least 4 million people, by official estimates, and ruined three countries. Scarcely worth our notice. Whoever does notice it is subject to contempt.

Maybe it's as Ivy said: The scale is just beyond what we are equipped to make sense of.

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1-04-05 11:48am (new)
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MikeyG
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Did you say East Timor?

I'm more surprised than anything that Nature could be as callous as she is. She's certainly got it within her power to create localized typhoons and tornados to take out the White House or Parliament or Donald Trump's office or something. Why nail so many of the destitute?

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The giant three-phallused phallus of Uzbekistan will one day squirt the cosmic jizz of revenge all over Canada.

1-04-05 12:35pm (new)
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boinky33
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1-04-05 1:09pm (new)
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MikeyG
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[Click to view comic: 'orphaning on dead dancers']

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The giant three-phallused phallus of Uzbekistan will one day squirt the cosmic jizz of revenge all over Canada.

1-04-05 1:13pm (new)
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kaufman
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Orphaned dancers? Dead on!

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1-04-05 1:19pm (new)
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ivytheplant
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If I ever get Storm's powers, I will certainly be taking out places that annoy me with localized toranodes.

Same thing if I was God. "Oops my finger slipped!"

1-04-05 2:10pm (new)
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fpd
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I came to this thread after checking what the godhatesfags.com website had to say about the tsunami. And whatever tastelessness was in BobRogers' strip just pales in comparison to the utter hatemongering on that site. It describes the tsunami as God's wrath, expresses hope that all the Swedes in the area of the tsunami are dead, and asks us to pray to God that North America will also be destroyed by a giant tsunami.

I'm not bothered by the strips here, though I do appreciate Inflatable_Man's point. After my father died, some of my uncles joked about his death, but I was in absolutely no mood to entertain any humor about his death. If I knew people in Thailand, then this would be a more somber matter for me, as for example, Hiroshima and Nagasaki are, because I was friends with a Japanese woman during college. Still, that didn't stop me from doing a strip on the subject when I lampooned the Invaders.

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1-04-05 9:41pm (new)
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